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View Poll Results: Is del Potro the fifth best tennis player on planet Earth at the moment?
Yes, easily 81 29.14%
It's between him and Berdych/Tsonga or both 59 21.22%
No, Ferrer is 110 39.57%
He's one of the best four 28 10.07%
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Nadal is more limited than Djokovic and Fed, and has positive H2H
Murray is more limited than than Federer, but also leading H2H.
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The most ironic thing about this thread is that the people defending Ferrer based on H2H are mostly Fedtards who claim it doesn't matter when it comes to Federer and Nadal Ridiculous how some still can't get over the USO 2009 final, I know it stopped Fed from holding all 4 Slams at once and being the first to win a Slam six years in a row -but it was almost 4 years ago and Federer has 17 Slams and plenty other records and is probably the best tennis player ever, it's time to let it go.
You talking about not letting things go. Now I've seen it all.
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It's a fact. He might not have been able to hang with the current top 4 post surgery, but he's still comfortably a better player than anyone else. He's also 5-5 in his last 10 matches against said top 4 so the signs are that the gap is closing, not increasing.

Surgery/injuries have affected his relative standing in the game compared to the current top 4, but that's all. He's still better than everyone else. This has been the case ever since his return.

Discuss.

You take the Ferrer vulture thing too far but I have to admit you are right here. Ferrer could never dream of doing what Delpo did in IW or the USO. Delpo just needs better consistency. Rankings don't always tell the whole story. Ferrer does vulture a lot of MM events.
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I don't understand how anybody can think DP the 5th best player at the moment.

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You take the Ferrer vulture thing too far but I have to admit you are right here. Ferrer could never dream of doing what Delpo did in IW or the USO. Delpo just needs better consistency. Rankings don't always tell the whole story. Ferrer does vulture a lot of MM events.
Ferrer has already done that, beating both in straights.
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You take the Ferrer vulture thing too far but I have to admit you are right here. Ferrer could never dream of doing what Delpo did in IW or the USO. Delpo just needs better consistency. Rankings don't always tell the whole story. Ferrer does vulture a lot of MM events.


He probably does dream about it, he just doesn't have the ability to do it because he's not as good a tennis player, simple as that. It's good to see that not all Federer fans are hating on JMDP because of that USO final

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Delpo >>> Ferrer. Fact. Anyone thinks otherwise is delusional.

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He probably does dream about it, he just doesn't have the ability to do it because he's not as good a tennis player, simple as that. It's good to see that not all Federer fans are hating on JMDP because of that USO final
I'm a big Delpo fan. I don't hate on players for beating my favorite. I hate them for who they are.
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Delpo >>> Ferrer. Fact. Anyone thinks otherwise is delusional.
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Delpo >>> Ferrer. Fact. Anyone thinks otherwise is delusional.
Look at the poll though, no shortage of such people here.

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I'm a big Delpo fan. I don't hate on players for beating my favorite. I hate them for who they are.
Means you're a real fan of the game.

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So, how does it feel being Lenders' lapdog?
So agreeing with me makes someone my lapdog eh? Flawless logic there.

Also, it's the other way round. I can barely get games off him when we play TopSpin online, even when I'm Djokovic and he's Simon. If anything, I'm his lapdog

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It's a fact. He might not have been able to hang with the current top 4 post surgery, but he's still comfortably a better player than anyone else. He's also 5-5 in his last 10 matches against said top 4 so the signs are that the gap is closing, not increasing.

Surgery/injuries have affected his relative standing in the game compared to the current top 4, but that's all. He's still better than everyone else. This has been the case ever since his return.
So, your ONLY real argument is that he is doing well against top 4, since David is ahead of him in every other aspect of the game.
And yet, it is preposterous to say that Fed cannot be goat because of his h2h with Nadal.
Man, this exclude-the-rest-of-the-field-when-it-suits-me game is sure darn difficult to grasp.

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So agreeing with me makes someone my lapdog eh? Flawless logic there.
Nah, otherwise I'd be calling everyone that agrees with you your lapdog. NR is a special case, creating threads and making videos for you, and yes, agreeing with you 24/7 as if he never had his own opinion on anything.

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Nah, otherwise I'd be calling everyone that agrees with you your lapdog. NR is a special case, creating threads and making videos for you, and yes, agreeing with you 24/7 as if he never had his own opinion on anything.



Again you with your fantasy world. Get real, Lenders.
Or maybe, just maybe, his opinion often happens to coincide with mine and there's nothing more to it. But why let logic get in the way of a perfectly good ad hominen?

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Or maybe, just maybe, his opinion often happens to coincide with mine and there's nothing more to it. But why let logic get in the way of a perfectly good ad hominen?
Nice of you to stand up for him. A truly heartwarming story about a clown and his lapdog.


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So, how does it feel being Lenders' lapdog?
That's the best you can do? Okey.

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Nah, otherwise I'd be calling everyone that agrees with you your lapdog. NR is a special case, creating threads and making videos for you, and yes, agreeing with you 24/7 as if he never had his own opinion on anything.
You are even lying here to prove your point. How pathetic. This is simply not true. We disagreed many times before.

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