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View Poll Results: Which of these players could/would have been n°1 in 2000-2005 years?
Nicolas Almagro 3 12.50%
Marcos Baghdatis 4 16.67%
Tomas Berdych 5 20.83%
Juam Martin Del Potro 17 70.83%
Richard Gasquet 2 8.33%
John Isner 3 12.50%
Gael Monfils 2 8.33%
Marin Cilic 3 12.50%
Gilles Simon 3 12.50%
Robin Soderling 9 37.50%
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 7 29.17%
Stanislas Wawrinka 2 8.33%
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Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

Which of these players could/would have been n°1 during 2000-2005 years?

I mean before the Federer-Nadal monopoly and before the rise of Djokovic. How would they rank with the likes of Sampras, Agassi, early Federer, Roddick and Hewitt?


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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

Which players?

EDIT: They've been added now, so ignore my message.

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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

Impossible to say for sure of course but I'd imagine Soderling and Delpo are the prime candidates. The others aren't good enough or have serious issues (mental/physical).
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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

1999-2003 is the period you're after I think. February 2004 onwards would've been very difficult for any of these players to rise to number one.

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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

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I think Andrew Murray would be a good shout, don't you think?

Strange he's not on the list

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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

None of these ever played at a high enough level over 12 months to be #1, I believe.

Maybe Del Potro's 2009 level would have been enough to be #1 at one specific point pre-Fedal, that's the only maybe here. None of the others listed ever produced consistently enough for #1 to even be a possibility in any era.

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None of these ever played at a high enough level over 12 months to be #1, I believe.

Maybe Del Potro's 2009 level would have been enough to be #1 at one specific point pre-Fedal, that's the only maybe here. None of the others listed ever produced consistently enough for #1 to even be a possibility in any era.
There was a time you didn't have to be so consistent to be #1.

Del Potro could easily make it, he almost made it in 2010 before his injury. That run he was on would've been enough in another era.

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I think Andrew Murray would be a good shout, don't you think?

Strange he's not on the list
He would be a very good shout but as you say he is not on the list so I did not take him into consideration.

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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

I'd rather count it from 2000 to mid-2003 instead of 2000-05.

Hard to say, but from these mentioned above, peak Soderling would probably have most chances.

Berdych, Del Potro and Tsonga can't even pass Ferrer so I doubt they'd pass all the guys like: Hewitt, Agassi, Kuerten and Roddick. Especially Leyton might be too tough for them. They might pass some of them, but to be no. 1, they'd have to pass them all with better results in a 52-week-period - can't see that happening. Perhaps peak Delpo might do it if he had a great few months but it would probably be a temporal no. 1.

With all due respect, I wouldn't even consider the rest of the guys you mentioned as possible no. 1.
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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

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There was a time you didn't have to be so consistent to be #1.

Del Potro could easily make it, he almost made it in 2010 before his injury. That run he was on would've been enough in another era.
You needed some degree of consistency though, which the names in the poll bar JMDP were never capable of.

Yes, Del Potro won 1 Slam, made 1 SF and 1 QF, F at WTF, QF-F in 6 of the 8 Masters he entered... I'm sure there have been former #1s with worse numbers over 12 months ie even with the injury happening he could have had a shot at it in a non-Fedal field, not to mention that in such a field his result would have been better since he was stopped by Fedal at 2 Slams and 3 Masters. Apart from pre-surgery Del Potro though, I don't think any of the other names in the poll would have even a puncher's chance at #1 in any era though.

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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

Where is the "none" option?
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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

You needed to put a "none" option...
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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

Place Soderling's 2010 form/season into 2002.

Perhaps could've titled at Roland Garros, Paris indoors (as he did already) and put in semi-final showings at Wimbledon and the US Open. Those results may have given him a sneak in at number one sometime very late in the year.

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Re: Which of these players would have been n°1 in a different era?

You need to learn respect for the greats of the game.

It's really offensive to think that the likes of Almagro, Cilic, Simon, etc. would've been a threat to Sampras's or Agassi's reign as #1. Heck, I'm pretty certain they can't even touch early Federer, Roddick and Hewitt reigns too.
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