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Who are the Clay court specialists?

So as we're approaching the Clay court season, who in your opinion are more suited to clay than any other surface.

I'll start with 2 obvious choices:

Nadal and Ferrer.

Who else?


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Re: Who are the Clay court specialists?

Most, if not all spanish and south american players...
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Re: Who are the Clay court specialists?

Monaco, Berlocq, Fognini, Almagro, Klizan, Bellucci, Gimeno-Traver, Hanescu, Leo Mayer, Robredo, Kuznetsov, Kavcic, Montanes, Sousa, Rufin, Alund, Hajek - of the top100.
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Re: Who are the Clay court specialists?

I don't think Ferrer is all that obvious as a clay specialist. It seems to me his results on HC are about on par with his clay ones.
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I don't think Ferrer is all that obvious as a clay specialist. It seems to me his results on HC are about on par with his clay ones.
Yet, only on clay can he consistently challenge the big 4.
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Re: Who are the Clay court specialists?

Berdych and Del Potro are arguably two of the best clay courters in the game. Better than Ferrer on the surface, I think.

Monfils is another guy who, when healthy, makes strong showings on the surface. Wawrinka is another one who's up there.

The less relevant group, though specialists nonetheless, includes many South American and Spanish players, as mentioned, such as Andujar, Monaco, Montanes, etc.

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I don't think Ferrer is all that obvious as a clay specialist. It seems to me his results on HC are about on par with his clay ones.
I agree with this. In fact, until recently, his best efforts on hard courts outshined those on clay. In the 00's, he made just two RG QF's, most often bowing out by the third round. It wouldn't surprise me if he were upset early at RG this year.

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Yet, only on clay can he consistently challenge the big 4.
You play the field, not just the big 4. Besides, his results are better against Murray mainly because Murray has clay as his worst surface. His results are not better against Federer, 0% everywhere, and scarcely against Nadal...he's got 3-1 against Djokovic on clay, but no victory since 2009.
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Almagro.

Poor on HC, make his seasons and titles on clay. 12 titles in his career, all on clay, he has also never made a non clay tournament final.
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Almagro.

Poor on HC, make his seasons and titles on clay. 12 titles in his career, all on clay, he has also never made a non clay tournament final.
That record surprises me a bit as Almagro is always solid at the Australian Open.

If you look through his schedule over the last few years he really only plays the hard court grand slams and masters. The only weaker tournament he has consistently played is Auckland and that is the first tournament of the year.

So sure he is a better player on clay than hard, but he is no hard court mug, if he was playing those soft US 250s instead of vulturing the south american clay swing he would be winning hard court tournies no problem.
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That record surprises me a bit as Almagro is always solid at the Australian Open.

If you look through his schedule over the last few years he really only plays the hard court grand slams and masters. The only weaker tournament he has consistently played is Auckland and that is the first tournament of the year.

So sure he is a better player on clay than hard, but he is no hard court mug, if he was playing those soft US 250s instead of vulturing the south american clay swing he would be winning hard court tournies no problem.
I don't think he would. There is a good reason he plays the events on clay. And is seeded due to that, which allow him to progress in some of the HC tournament he plays.

According to the ATP website stats, he has a losing record on all surfaces, excepted clay. The definition of a clay specialist. He was also unlucky to see his 3 1/4 run in Roland Garros being stopped by Nadal. If he was on the other side of the draw, he could have done better.
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Re: Who are the Clay court specialists?

Ferrer is as much a clay specialist as Murray a grass specialist. Medium to slow HC is probably both players' best surface, yet most of the tour being clay/grass mugs, there are less players who can beat them on clay/grass.

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Ferrer is as much a clay specialist as Murray a grass specialist. Medium to slow HC is probably both players' best surface, yet most of the tour being clay/grass mugs, there are less players who can beat them on clay/grass.
Ferrer isn't a specialist but he isn't better on harcourt than he is on clay. He lacks a big weapon on clay, but his durability, his regularity are great assets on that surface.
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Berdych and Del Potro are arguably two of the best clay courters in the game. Better than Ferrer on the surface, I think.

Monfils is another guy who, when healthy, makes strong showings on the surface. Wawrinka is another one who's up there.

The less relevant group, though specialists nonetheless, includes many South American and Spanish players, as mentioned, such as Andujar, Monaco, Montanes, etc.
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