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Does Federer hold the record for the most profound losses?

He certainly holds the unofficial title of "GOAT" backed up by his mind blowing records.

But at the same time I feel he's lost more important matches than any other player, matches that he could and SHOULD have won.

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1 - Australian Open 2009 SF (Outplayed Nadal for the most part, but mentally folded)
2 - Australian Open 2012 SF (Same as above)
3 - Wimbledon 2011 (Two sets up, then what happened?)
4 - US Open 2009 F (WTF happened there?)
5 - US Open 2010 SF (7/10 times he would have won there, then he had 2 more chances to force a tiebreak)
6 - US Open 2011 SF (Just raw bad luck I think)

Honorable mentions

1 - Wimbledon 2008 F (Most people would have expected Nadal to mentally fold after losing the fourth set)
2 - French Open 2011 F (That was his best chance to beat Nadal, he should have taken the first set at least)

Looking at my list that's a whole of matches he blew. These matches could have at least lead to 1 extra slam, possibly 2 or more.

Considering the vast majority of players won't even ever get to play 8 GS matches this deep into the draw, that's a lot of wasted chances.

Feel sorry for Fed now.
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1 - Australian Open 2009 SF (Outplayed Nadal for the most part, but mentally folded)
That one was a final of course, you got that wrong. Though I agree with you he should have easily won that match and even played better tennis at the start.
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Re: Does Federer hold the record for the most profound losses?

Well, when you have played as many matches as RF, surely you'd have most profound losses as well. I'm sure this also goes with The GOATs of the past.

BTW, who is the next active player who holds second most matches?
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Nose is mentally weak, as soon as someone shows balls against him, he folds like a cheap tent. He was used to dominating talentless, gutless mugs throughout his career, so it was doubly shocking when Nadal burst on to the scene and started schooling 'GOAT' left and right.


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Nose is mentally weak, as soon as someone shows balls against him, he folds like a cheap tent. He was used to dominating talentless, gutless mugs throughout his career, so it was doubly shocking when Nadal burst on to the scene and started schooling 'GOAT' left and right.


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Yeah, the weak era did him in. He might've grown some resilience had he faced real competition from the start.

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Re: Does Federer hold the record for the most profound losses?

Unfortunately there were no strong era titans like Dodig and Rosol to prepare Noserer for these matches.
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Expected.. He is a gentle genius. Thank god Federer is not an iron robot like Nadull
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Re: Does Federer hold the record for the most profound losses?

No one really reached Federer's level when he was in his prime. He was just so used to swatting everyone out of the way with ease. So it's pretty normal that he would start to struggle mentally whenever he met his match against players who've reached that level of confidence. It's hardly surprising that he would lose more tight matches than he would win them. The fact that a 'perfectionist' can't merely just swat a particularly player away, can worry them.

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That one was a final of course, you got that wrong. Though I agree with you he should have easily won that match and even played better tennis at the start.
IIRC, Uncle Toni himself said that Roger should have won the first 4 sets

But yeah he had quite a few tight losses. He's a hell of e fighter though, never surrendering (apart from the RG2008 final of course), but usually these fights end up in defeat all the same. Just like he fights against loss rather than for win.

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Legendary, this Federer. Holds all the records.
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He can console himself with 17 slams.
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He should have won every match against dull
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Re: Does Federer hold the record for the most profound losses?

there are another achievments by "mental giant":
Hewitt WTF 2002
Hewit DC 2003
Safin AO 2005
Nalba WTF 2005
Nadal Dubai 2006
Nadal ROMA 2006
Canas Miami-2007 (he was angry after Canas had broken his streak, had wanted revenge)
Tsonga Canada-2009 and Wimby-2011
Djokovic Montreal 2007, WTF 2012.
Many matches against Berdych. For me, his worst choke was at Roma 2006.
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Re: Does Federer hold the record for the most profound losses?

Hamburg 2008 against Nadull
Paris 2010 against Monfils
many, many...
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