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Real Top 8 Against Each Other at Slams

So Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro, Soderling, Berdych and Tsonga - all the players who have either won a Slam (or more) or at least reached a Slam final since the Fedal era gathered full steam. They all beat each other at some point but how about at Slams:

Federer - 7/7, beat all of them. Lost to 7/7 too.

Nadal - 7/7. Lost to 6/7 (never lost to Berdych)

Djokovic - 6/7 (never faced Soderling). Lost to 5/7 (hasn't lost to Delpo, hasn't faced Soderling)

Murray - 6/7 (never faced Soderling) Lost to 5/7 (hasn't lost to Delpo, hasn't faced Soderling)

Del Potro - 4/7 (hasn't beaten Djokovic and Murray, hasn't faced Soderling) Lost to 4/7 (never lost to Tsonga or Berdych and never faced Soderling)

Soderling - 3/7 (hasn't faced Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro and Tsonga, beat all those he faced). Lost to 3/7 too.

Berdych - 3/7 (hasn't beaten Nadal, Soderling and Del Potro, hasn't faced Tsonga) Lost to 6/7 (never faced Tsonga)

Tsonga - 4/7 (hasn't beaten Del Potro, hasn't faced Soderling or Berdych) Lost to 5/7 (never faced Soderling or Berdych)


Overall internal Slam H2H:

Federer - 28-19 (positive against all but Nadal)
Nadal - 29-10 (positive against all but Tsonga, against whom he's even)
Djokovic - 20-14 (positive against all bar Federer and Nadal)
Murray - 8-14 (positive against Delpo and Tsonga, even with Berdych, negative with the other three)
Del Potro - 4-10 (positive against Tsonga and Berdych, even with Nadal, negaitve with everyone else)
Soderling - 2-8 (positive with Berdych, negative with Federer and Nadal)
Berdych - 4-13 (even with Murray, negative with everyone else)
Tsonga - 4-10 (negative with everyone bar Nadal, who he's even against).

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Suicide Tennis (5): Wimbledon 2014, World Tour Finals 2015, Madrid 2015, Kuala Lumpur 2014 and Metz 2015 - 1 Slam, 1 WTF, 1 Masters 1000, 2 ATP 250; 2 finals lost

Fill-in-the-Draw (5): US Open 2014, Rotterdam 2013, Geneva 2015, Sydney 2016 and Buenos Aires 2016 - 1 Slam, 1 ATP 500 and 3 ATP 250

Tennis Tipping (3): Veneza and Todi 2014 (with vn01), Knoxville 2015 (with Redkop) - 3 challengers; 7 finals lost
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Re: Real Top 8 Against Each Other at Slams

I miss Soderling But apparently he's started practicing again

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I miss Soderling But apparently he's started practicing again
Same here.

Bar Berdych vs Tsonga, all matchups between the real top 8 that haven't yet taken place at Slam level involve Soderling, shows how prematuraly he left the sport, but hopefully he will be back.

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Suicide Tennis (5): Wimbledon 2014, World Tour Finals 2015, Madrid 2015, Kuala Lumpur 2014 and Metz 2015 - 1 Slam, 1 WTF, 1 Masters 1000, 2 ATP 250; 2 finals lost

Fill-in-the-Draw (5): US Open 2014, Rotterdam 2013, Geneva 2015, Sydney 2016 and Buenos Aires 2016 - 1 Slam, 1 ATP 500 and 3 ATP 250

Tennis Tipping (3): Veneza and Todi 2014 (with vn01), Knoxville 2015 (with Redkop) - 3 challengers; 7 finals lost
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where is Ferrer his stats must be frightening.


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How can someone who has been out with illness for almost 2 years be considered a "real member of the Top 8" Might as well just bring back Roddick from retirement, and name him a "real top 8 player".
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How can someone who has been out with illness for almost 2 years be considered a "real member of the Top 8" Might as well just bring back Roddick from retirement, and name him a "real top 8 player".
Yeah, sure, why don't we?

0-1 v. Del Potro
1-1 v. Nadal (both wins well outside the loser's primes)
1-1 v. Murray
1-1 v. Djokovic
1-0 v. Tsonga
2-0 v. Berdych

Wow, look at that! Yup! Nothing else to see here. Solid records at least. Mhmm.

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Conclusion? All hail GOAT Rafael Nadal

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That's your conclusion for every thread in existence.
Agreed, GSMNadal doesn't know what he is talking about. The real GOAT is obviously Haas. Would win 20 slams by now if he wasn't bothered by that scraped knee injury he picked up when he fell off his bike at 5 years old throughout his career


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Yeah, Soderling used to do great things in the slams. Miss him as well, when is actually he playing again ?
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That's your conclusion for every thread in existence.
You're right, he is consistently correct.
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I miss Soderling But apparently he's started practicing again
Is that some recent news? Haven't heard anything from camp Soderling in a long time.
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Is that some recent news? Haven't heard anything from camp Soderling in a long time.
unfortunately not. just a bad source. repetition of the last year news under the guise of the new ones.
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Agreed, GSMNadal doesn't know what he is talking about. The real GOAT is obviously Haas. Would win 20 slams by now if he wasn't bothered by that scraped knee injury he picked up when he fell off his bike at 5 years old throughout his career


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