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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

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You're obviously annoyed but you're saying what he says is more important than what he does on court?

So if Haas disliked slow courts,
why did he reach the clay final like in Rome?
He served better to reach finals.
He should've served more confidently in 2009 French Open to get the chance to win it all.

He clearly didn't feel confident because
of a decade of hearing how slower courts hurt many guys.
Well, he doesn't like high bounce but he also
throws loopy returns to Ferrer.
Haas kept moonballing the volley up.
Ferrer didn't hesitate like Haas did.
Ferrer's not too stupid.


Ferrer moves very well here. Haas cruised by Simon because Simon doesn't like hitting & serving fast. Obviously, he Simon thinks it's too quick of a court to return Haas' serve.
The only factual thing here by you is that Haas did throw loopy backahnds, but only because Ferrer was on the other side, thats why he is all around player. Even if he uses 99% of the time flat bh and flat shots in general, he's not shy to try anything else if that is what it takes to beat someone like Simon or Ferrer.

And tbh the title in Rome, If I may be so bold, I wouldn't be surprised if it was faster than Miami and IW even on clay. Hell even these days some clay courts LOOK faster than Miami and IW.

And to settle a deal about Haas benefiting more from slower courts (wich you are absolutely wrong), just look at the career achievements, and you'll see he's way more efficient on faster courts.

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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

The weakest player from the strong era, who struggles to win games against the top guys, beats Haas 2.0. Telling to say the least.

Disgusting result though, Ferrer with another fluked masters run and perhaps title. He would've lost the moment he faced a decent player, yet none seem to come on his path. If he faces Gasquet that would be a fitting way to end this tournament.

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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

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I saw his win in Memphis. It wasn't that difficult. His opponent could do nothing with a 135 mph serve between 2001-2007. Haas was confident against a poor mover.

I believe you were 19.

He did well at 31 years old on clay and he got better, not just indoor fast court. French Open was to my knowledge, uh, slow.
Wimbledon was one of his least successful Slams and it's uh, not so slow.
I'm sure if he was so brilliant at net, you'd be seeing a French Open title, at least. Not the US Open.
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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

NO! What a gross result Joke event for sure now. Hopefully he gets crushed in the final. So Mugray, you better be there ffs.

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I saw his win in Memphis. It wasn't that difficult. His opponent could do nothing with a 135 mph serve between 2001-2007. Haas was confident against a poor mover.

I believe you were 19.

He did well at 31 years old on clay and he got better, not just indoor fast court. French Open was to my knowledge, uh, slow.
Wimbledon was one of his least successful Slams and it's uh, not so slow.
I'm sure if he was so brilliant at net, you'd be seeing a French Open title, at least. Not the US Open.
lolwhut?

btw, Wimbledon semis is not bad at all, should have he faced any other besides Fed, he would have made it to the finals. He was that good.

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the ferrer hate is getting out of hand

I feel for the guy, i really do. he's damned if he does and damned if he doesnt really
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the ferrer hate is getting out of hand

I feel for the guy, i really do. he's damned if he does and damned if he doesnt really
No he's not.

He's not damned if he actually shows something against one of the top guys. I'm not even saying he has to win, but taking more than 5 games in a 3 set match would be a nice place to start.

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Vultures be vulturing.


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No he's not.

He's not damned if he actually shows something against one of the top guys. I'm not even saying he has to win, but taking more than 5 games in a 3 set match would be a nice place to start.
im talking more speciically about this event. If he had failed to take advantage of the draw he would be slammed.He's made the final and he's getting slammed

even when he beats other top players there's always a reason for why that happened.

he might not have a great record against the top 4 in the world but no one does.

I agree though its frustrating when he gets crushed by them but that really only happens against nadal, djokovic and federer. he's beaten andy a number of times.

The guy almost never loses to guys ranked below him and thats why he is where he is and therefor has proven he deserves his ranking. Most of the time when he3 comes across the guys like berdych, del potro or tsonga..guys everyone says should be ranked higher than him he beats them
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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

misty,
It does feel a bit unfair, but you ought to know many people hate his style of game, not him. Here on MTF that's the same thing, if you hate his game, you automatically hate him as well. Which wrong, but this is MTF, so everything is understandable..

There's no doubt he's an amazing athlete which he's proven over the years, I don't like his tennis..not...one...bit... but I definitely respect him.

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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

Ferrer doesn't get out of control. He wins 8 titles and people are angry that he manipulates his opponents in more semis/finals. How many guys 7 years ago were athletic and smart like him the last 6 years?
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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

Disgusting result for us all.. The vulture smelt a cakewalk. Thank god he will face Murray in the final and tennis wll be saved
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hate that Haas lost this, came so close to making the final, which I think he could have won.. but once again Ferrer out works his opponent.

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No he's not.

He's not damned if he actually shows something against one of the top guys. I'm not even saying he has to win, but taking more than 5 games in a 3 set match would be a nice place to start.
7-30 in games vs Big 4 this year. Telling.
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