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I didn't block you. I never spend hours in private messages.

Apparently, you didn't notice the 5 set matches he played against Federer were because he served better.

It didn't matter if he enjoyed indoors Memphis & similar courts; his serve was making it harder to succeed when the SLOWER SERVERS got better angle serve/return aided by the INDOOR FASTER COURT.

The fact is he got nervous & should've blasted his serve & forehand. Ferrer hammered forehands & Haas got defensive LIKE HE DID 8 years ago ON GRASS & FAST INDOOR courts.
Haas got defensive?

The majority of the shots could have been ended way faster in favor of Haas, if this was faster court.

It doesn't matter how he played on fast courts, what matters is that he SAID 2 days ago that the court is too slow for his liking.

Not to mention on twitter where he said, that slowing down the courts is definitely hurting him.

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So how on earth can he benefits from slow courts??

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One of the biggest NIDs so far this season, Ferrer wasn't going to miss a chance like this, no way. Win the whole thing now

“There’s so many athletes, tennis players around the world,” he continued, trying to put his life into some kind of perspective, “they want to be the best in what they do. They want to succeed. Many of them, they don’t succeed in the end. I’m fortunate to have this opportunity and succeed.”
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One of the biggest NIDs so far this season, Ferrer wasn't going to miss a chance like this, no way. Win the whole thing now
Yes, win the whole thing against much better pusher


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happy about this result for one reason. nadal will be 5th seed at RG. makes QF more interesting
Not if you have the sneaking suspicion that Nadal will be drawn in Ferrer's quarter, or Federer's quarter, or Murray's quarter...basically, any quarter that does not contain Djokovic. Business as usual for Nadal.

As to the match, sad for Haas but a depressingly expected result. Not looking forward to a rather dull final between Ferrer and Murray, neither of whom have the game to set the world on fire, let's say.
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Noooo... I was cheering for Haas today.

Murray should win this title.

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I watch Ferrer maximum 3 times per year and i always regret it at the end.

His grunting 3 seconds after hitting the ball is a violation of the rules, it's disgusting and he should be banned from tennis.

IMO

Haas ofc choked a few serves out, but i can imagine the pressure
Anyway, I noticed Haas kind of jumps around a lot during the opponent's serve. I'd consider that just as distracting.

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the vulture sucking the last life-juice out of tennis. Another "exciting" final coming up
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Anyway, I noticed Haas kind of jumps around a lot during the opponent's serve. I'd consider that just as distracting.
Funny, I kind of notice Ferrer did that a bit, although admittedly haven't watched him a lot recently.
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You keep feeding the player the hopeless attitude that it's too slow, then there's no more chance.
Only dreams to win.

Nadal is supposed to do well here but obviously he couldn't grind out in the finals. It takes more than
quick serve winners and longer rallies to win titles.

If you don't move well enough, cute backhands and mediocre volleys do nothing (even if you won the event 3 times).
Haas changes his mind in the 2nd set, then hesitates at net. He's scared that he can't serve & return even though Ferrer's 3 feet behind the baseline. No focus.
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Yes, win the whole thing against much better pusher
He ain't there yet~

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You keep feeding the player the hopeless attitude that it's too slow, then there's no more chance.
Only dreams to win.

Nadal is supposed to do well here but obviously he couldn't grind out in the finals. It takes more than
quick serve winners and longer rallies to win titles.

If you don't move well enough, cute backhands and mediocre volleys do nothing (even if you won the event 3 times).
Haas changes his mind in the 2nd set, then hesitates at net. He's scared that he can't serve & return even though Ferrer's 3 feet behind the baseline. No focus.
I didn't even understand your 1st sentence, but nevermind you are off topic again.

About the match, Haas wasn't scared, he simply couldn't serve, 2nd and 3rd set his 1st service was below 25-30% which is ridiculous. And all of those that went in, Ferrer came up with amazing returns.

Also Haas's volleys are way over mediocre level, one of the best on tour. He doesn't do too many S&V this year, but that doesn't prove anything. His touches on the net are simply brilliant.
You can't win if you don't move enough here, I agree. And Tommy more than proved that he can move well, as much in this match and also in his previous matches especially vs Simon where you need to move well.

The low angle camera shows perfectly how slow this court is and how Tommy doesn't like high bouncing balls.
If this was faster court, he would have AT LEAST confirmed his breaks in the 3rd set. If this was Halle, he wouldn't give any chance of Ferrer breaking back 2 times in the row, not even with his 2nd serve.
Why? Because his style of game even considering he is all around player, more benefits from faster surfaces.

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Re: Miami SF - Ferrer hindrances Haas out 4-6 6-2 6-3

You're obviously annoyed but you're saying what he says is more important than what he does on court?

So if Haas disliked slow courts,
why did he reach the clay final like in Rome?
He served better to reach finals.
He should've served more confidently in 2009 French Open to get the chance to win it all.

He clearly didn't feel confident because
of a decade of hearing how slower courts hurt many guys.
Well, he doesn't like high bounce but he also
throws loopy returns to Ferrer.
Haas kept moonballing the volley up.
Ferrer didn't hesitate like Haas did.
Ferrer's not too stupid.


Ferrer moves very well here. Haas cruised by Simon because Simon doesn't like hitting & serving fast. Obviously, Simon thinks it's too quick of a court to return Haas' serve.
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