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Their laughable in the extreme. I am fine with anybody who clearly has a distaste for Ferrer and his game, but the amount of sheer hyperbole and foolhardiness on display is spellbinding.




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How is that a problem? We agree to disagree and that's it.

I don't want to change your opinion and i'm hardly changing mine, simply because what he did tonight i rate cheating and it's the main part of my disappointment, which part you strangely prefer to ignore...

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Sometimes I have a feeling that Ferrer is just teasing his opponents by starting so bad and eventually winning.
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patetic era....

haas after many injurys and surgerys with 35 years old in the semis ( defeating the nº1) and against ferrer , a guy of federer generation but that in that time he was another x player and " specialist in clay"

how a clay court player like ferrer won his first masters1000 in indoor , and plays finals of WTF , shangai and miami???? or winning in grass too!!!!!!!!!!

and nadull`s tard pissed when I say that is the most patetic era in clay of all times.

the second best clay court specialist after nadal has his better archivements in hard and indoor!!!!

but this is this era , robost from the baseline running and returning , the good and classical tennis???? it`s dead.

I don`t know if roger`s era was weak or strong , but the tennis quality was much better , much more beatiful tennis with more faster corts.

ATP with his homogenization of the surfaces it`s killing tennis
Maybe that's because he's not a clay court specialist?

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This is exactly why i like guys like Oli Rochus and Kei Nishikori, coz they would try. They would lose most times (just as Ferrer actually), but the matches would always be entertaining and they would gain respect from people like me, who appreciate this kind of tennis.

That's what i dislike about Ferrer, but mostly the grunting part. This pissed me off big time tonight. I usually try to avoid watching him (on TV, i would defo go to watch him live... ), but i did several times and his grunting never was that displaced and annoying.

Does he do this all the time or only when in losing position? I mean, this was really bad, i felt a bit like a long time Armstrong fan....
Nishikori is a bad example, he's pretty defensive most of the times.

I can't really answer your grunting question, I don't even notice players grunting anymore because I got so used to it, unless it's at a Granollers level.

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How is that a problem? We agree to disagree and that's it.

I don't want to change your opinion and i'm hardly changing mine, simply because what he did tonight i rate cheating and it's the main part of my disappointment, which part you strangely prefer to ignore...
In regards to the grunting, I watch most of my tennis matches on a low volume and can be a little inattentive at times, but I will take your word on it, although can not comment since it is merely speculation at this stage.

And it's a problem because I can't for the life of me fathom as to why somebody would call Ferrer, an established, universally respected top ten player "unwatchable". But I appreciate your levelheadedness in this discussion, since you're not resorting to senseless remarks.
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These slow courts really have made Ferrer's career quite into something.

I don't buy into the whole improving physically thing. He was always like an energizer bunny. I remember back in 2003 he was more or less the same player but with a weaker backhand, fast forward a decade and he makes Masters semies by drilling shots cross-court.

Props, Mr.Haas, for a great tournament. These Germans play like a different sport sometimes, so easy on the eyes.
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Since I like both guys I was content with either winning (barring serious controversy or injury) but have to admit that the haters' butthurt reaction makes Ferrer's victory a lot bit better

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Nishikori is a bad example, he's pretty defensive most of the times.

I can't really answer your grunting question, I don't even notice players grunting anymore because I got so used to it, unless it's at a Granollers level.
Kei isn't the perfect example indeed, yet he's at least for me much more a shot maker than Ferrer.

I often watch these matches soundless and often miss this, but for some reason i watch and listened to this one and it was really annoying.

I'm actually not spamming the forum with "ban the cheater" kind of threads only because Haas never even seemed to notice it, while he's usually a hot tempered one and if it had annoyed him, he might have asked the umpire for a warning or whatever.

Still in my mind it looked intentional and unfair, despite it wasn't the prime reason for Haas losing.

Anyways, never been a fan of Ferrer, never will be a Landers' level of hater for the guy, but i'm definitely on the antipathy side now.

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patetic era....

haas after many injurys and surgerys with 35 years old in the semis ( defeating the nº1) and against ferrer , a guy of federer generation but that in that time he was another x player and " specialist in clay"

how a clay court player like ferrer won his first masters1000 in indoor , and plays finals of WTF , shangai and miami???? or winning in grass too!!!!!!!!!!

and nadull`s tard pissed when I say that is the most patetic era in clay of all times.

the second best clay court specialist after nadal has his better archivements in hard and indoor!!!!

but this is this era , robost from the baseline running and returning , the good and classical tennis???? it`s dead.

I don`t know if roger`s era was weak or strong , but the tennis quality was much better , much more beatiful tennis with more faster corts.

ATP with his homogenization of the surfaces it`s killing tennis
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Kei isn't the perfect example indeed, yet he's at least for me much more a shot maker than Ferrer.

I often watch these matches soundless and often miss this, but for some reason i watch and listened to this one and it was really annoying.

I'm actually not spamming the forum with "ban the cheater" kind of threads only because Haas never even seemed to notice it, while he's usually a hot tempered one and if it had annoyed him, he might have asked the umpire for a warning or whatever.

Still in my mind it looked intentional and unfair, despite it wasn't the prime reason for Haas losing.

Anyways, never been a fan of Ferrer, never will be a Landers' level of hater for the guy, but i'm definitely on the antipathy side now.
Not only Haas didn't notice it, it seems you're the only one in this thread too who is talking about it

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Not only Haas didn't notice it, it seems you're the only one in this thread too who is talking about it
yeah...that's also why i'll just leave it

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Can someone pls argue this guy, because it seems he blocked me cause I provided valid points of how incredibly wrong and ignorant his statement is

So in his opinion you need to have better health/endurance for short points, while it doesn't matter when you play long rallies on slow courts
I didn't block you. I never spend hours in private messages.

Apparently, you didn't notice the 5 set matches he played against Federer were because he served better.

It didn't matter if he enjoyed indoors Memphis & similar courts; his serve was making it harder to succeed when the SLOWER SERVERS got better angle serve/return aided by the INDOOR FASTER COURT.

The fact is he got nervous & should've blasted his serve & forehand. Ferrer hammered forehands & Haas got defensive LIKE HE DID 8 years ago ON GRASS & FAST INDOOR courts.
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Haha, kinda funny and sad at the same time to see Ferrer grind Haas into submission.
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