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The Second Serve

1. Who has the best second serve among active players? I think it might be Nadal or Djokovic. Maybe Federer. What do you think?

2. Who has the best second serve of all time? I would guess Edberg.

2. What would be the effect of trying to get by with only a first serve? I guess no one really does it because they would hit too many double faults. But maybe the increased double faults would be offset by the better outcomes of more first serves. Any thoughts?
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Djokovic? Are you kidding? Murray and Djokovic produce sitters for second serves, that's one of the biggest weaknesses in their game.

Isner has a good 2nd serve basically because he is serving from a tree. Other than that - Federer by far. Best placement serve ever.
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1. Deffo not Nadal. Isner always a good shout when it comes to serving.

2. Sampras

Nadal and Djokovic second serves are made look better because of their superior ground game. The serves itself are very ordinary

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Honorable mention to Berdych.
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Djokovic has a great second serve always did
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Re: The Second Serve

Isner definitely has the best 2nd...especially when he gets the huge kick on it

Who has the worst 2nd? From what I've seen it is probably Goffin, he either DFs or serves it up on a platter for the returner

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1. Deffo not Nadal. Isner always a good shout when it comes to serving.

2. Sampras

Nadal and Djokovic second serves are made look better because of their superior ground game. The serves itself are very ordinary
The previous poster thought Federer might have the best second serve among current players. Both you and the previous poster also find weaknesses in the Djokovic and Nadal second serves. Fair enough. On the third question, about using just a first serve even on the second serve, perhaps those with high double fault totals, like Goffin or Verdasco, maybe these players are doing that. Or maybe they just have erratic second serves.
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Isner, that kick is wicked.
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Isner, that kick is wicked.
Lots of folks are saying Isner has the best second serve. Understandable given his great first serve and height. Didn't McEnroe have a great second serve? I seem to remember that he did.
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Re: The Second Serve

1 simon

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Djokovic? Are you kidding? Murray and Djokovic produce sitters for second serves, that's one of the biggest weaknesses in their game.
Nole's definitely not the greatest, but usually far from weak.

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Isner by far, all time.

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idk but Nalba and Davy are one of the worst second servers of all-time... if only they had a second serve

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Feliciano López by far. I'm surprised no one has mentioned him.

The worst second server that I remember is Guillermo Coria.
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