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Knowing the winning or losing surface will not change the h2h.
and the fact that he has played them on HC as many times as clay.... none of these people are aware at all of actual stats

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Davydenko is the GOAT. How can Nadal claim to be the greatest when he is owned by one of his contempories?
Give me the link to some article or video where Nadal claims to be GOAT.


As far as I know it's only fans' war...
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Give me the link to some article or video where Nadal claims to be GOAT.


As far as I know it's only fans' war...
http://zeenews.india.com/sports/tenn...ry_770109.html

So, if he says that the current top 5 are at the best ever level in tennis history and he gets to be number 1, that would mean he claims to be the GOAT, as in the leader of the generation with the best ever level in tennis. No?

P.S.: I'm just kidding... Toying with how much the press can twist things in our times.
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Nadal is utterly dependent on clay for his successes. Take away clay and he is just an average player taking advantage of a slow era.
Why would you do that? It's the second most important surface.
He has such great H2H against all the other top guys simply because he can win more against them on the other surfaces than they can win against him on clay.

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Why would you do that? It's the second most important surface.
He has such great H2H against all the other top guys simply because he can win more against them on the other surfaces than they can win against him on clay.
I love how these morons just randomly say take clay away. Take fucking hard courts away for Federer, then what?
Clay is an important surface historically...just because Nadal is a god who had an 81 match winning streak on the surface once, has lost 1 5 set match in his 10 year career and won 8 out of 9 F0's he's walked into makes these Fedtard mororns cry...at least he dominates without coming onto 'his' GS without wearing gold jewelry and handbags unlike that diva Federina.
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Why would you do that? It's the second most important surface.
He has such great H2H against all the other top guys simply because he can win more against them on the other surfaces than they can win against him on clay.
Thanks for bringing this up. I kinda forgot why he's got such good h2h's. It's because he never loses to anyone on clay. I'd love to see what his h2h's look like outside of clay.
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I love how these morons just randomly say take clay away. Take fucking hard courts away for Federer, then what?
Clay is an important surface historically...just because Nadal is a god who had an 81 match winning streak on the surface once, has lost 1 5 set match in his 10 year career and won 8 out of 9 F0's he's walked into makes these Fedtard mororns cry...at least he dominates without coming onto 'his' GS without wearing gold jewelry and handbags unlike that diva Federina.
Take hard courts away and Fed has 7 Wimby's, 1 FO, and 4 FO finals. Who's the moron now?
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Thanks for bringing this up. I kinda forgot why he's got such good h2h's. It's because he never loses to anyone on clay. I'd love to see what his h2h's look like outside of clay.
You're really missing the point. Take Djokovic for example. He is better hard court player. But the margins are not as big.
Djokovic leads 12-7 on hard. Djokovic wins 64% of the matches played on hard.
Nadal leads 13-3 on clay. Nadal wins 82% of the matches on clay.
They even played more on hardcourt than they didn on clay and Nadal still leads H2H. True, if you break it down by the % of torunaments played on clay and hard during a year, they played a higher % on clay.
Djokovic leads 13-9 outside clay. Still respectable.

Just because Nadal is more dominant on his favorite surface doesn't mean you should discard it. You'll never have a player dominate all his rivals on every surface. It's just silly.

Noone dominates Nadal on any surface the way he dominates EVERYONE on clay.

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Ironic that Nadal is pigeon for all the mugs.
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Very impressive the whole top 15, Nadal has +4 differential and thus all pigeons! Wow

http://tennisabstract.com/reports/h2hMatrix.html

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