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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

i had to wait til the drama calm down.

Anyways i figure this was NID, fed has struggled against the Bird in the pass.
But at the same time this was a shocking upset.
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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

and this thread is still going strong, lol ... Could someone bump up that IW/Miami 2007 thread ... Fed/Canas
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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

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i had to wait til the drama calm down.

Anyways i figure this was NID, fed has struggled against the Bird in the pass.
But at the same time this was a shocking upset.
Yes, it was NID that Federer would have 3 MPs to win in 2 sets and that he would waste them and Berdych would win in 3.....

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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

Glad I was banned so I didn't need to read all the asshat posts in this thread. Was a very disappointing loss but probably Roger have not fully recovered from his packed 2012 schedule and playing those stupid exhos in SA. I don't expect anything from him in IW. The 2 month break is much needed at this point.
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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

kinda expected tbh.

still, federer will rise. don't be surprised if he plays like a beast in wimbledon.

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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

Better player won.
Berdych rightfully took his chances, Fed failed miserably. End of story.

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kinda expected tbh.

still, federer will rise. don't be surprised if he plays like a beast in wimbledon.
Good to see some sense in this senseless forum.
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He's 31 years old, that's all the proof you should need. Name me one modern player who was as good at 31 as he was at 25-27. Agassi was good in his old age, but nowhere nearly as good as he was in his prime. 25-27 are prime years in tennis. After that comes the inevitable decline for ANY player. What Federer is doing at his age is nothing short of amazing. He regained no.1 spot for a while and won Wimbledon last year. At his age, that is a massive achievement. Granted, the difference between this Federer and 2006 Federer may not be huge, but in tennis losing half a step and/or a little bit of stamina is the difference between a grand slam champion and a runner up/semi-finalist.

I'm Nole fan, but in 4 years from now, when Nole starts losing frequently, are you going to make the same "prove it" argument? I am almost 100% certain that at 31 years of age, Nole will not be nearly as successful as Federer is right now.

For a while, I was of the same opinion, but then I re-watched some of Federer's matches from 2006/2007. There is no doubt in my mind that this version of Federer is (relatively speaking) a shadow of prime Federer. You may attribute that to the rise of competition, and partly that is true, but competition or no competition, it is clear that at his age, Federer is just that much slower and not as fit physically as he was back then, and that's all it takes.
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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

It's a natural part of an athletes career that they will decline. Consistency will drop, physically they will slow down. Fedtards need to accept that he will never be the same man in his prime whilst detractors must know he has been playing consistently at a high level over the past decade a rare attribute in this game. Fuck people are ruthless.
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He's 31 years old, that's all the proof you should need. Name me one modern player who was as good at 31 as he was at 25-27. Agassi was good in his old age, but nowhere nearly as good as he was in his prime. 25-27 are prime years in tennis. After that comes the inevitable decline for ANY player. What Federer is doing at his age is nothing short of amazing. He regained no.1 spot for a while and won Wimbledon last year. At his age, that is a massive achievement. Granted, the difference between this Federer and 2006 Federer may not be huge, but in tennis losing half a step and/or a little bit of stamina is the difference between a grand slam champion and a runner up/semi-finalist.

I'm Nole fan, but in 4 years from now, when Nole starts losing frequently, are you going to make the same "prove it" argument? I am almost 100% certain that at 31 years of age, Nole will not be nearly as successful as Federer is right now.

For a while, I was of the same opinion, but then I re-watched some of Federer's matches from 2006/2007. There is no doubt in my mind that this version of Federer is (relatively speaking) a shadow of prime Federer. You may attribute that to the rise of competition, and partly that is true, but competition or no competition, it is clear that at his age, Federer is just that much slower and not as fit physically as he was back then, and that's all it takes.

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Fed said in his interview with CNN ranking is not his priority any
more. He can make efforts for GS and some of MS1000 but need to play
those ATP 500 to make sure he has enough matches because practise is not the same as real match. So he needs 3 or 4 matches in this small
tournaments where top players playing to keep him in form.Also he said
that the game is very physical now and it is not about skills anymore.They should not be naive that game is clean now.He had a meeting with representatives of all GS and ITF on this matter and blood passports will be introduced in two months,more blood tests that will be kept if they need them later on.
iF Fed really said all this.

I like the idea of the blood passports, but in reality the guts who have a normally low red blood cell count can get await with more tan those with a normally high blood cell count. Blood passports have been used in cycling for many tears now and still there is doping. Ridiculous also to think that doping only just started in tennis.
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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

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He's 31 years old, that's all the proof you should need. Name me one modern player who was as good at 31 as he was at 25-27. Agassi was good in his old age, but nowhere nearly as good as he was in his prime. 25-27 are prime years in tennis. After that comes the inevitable decline for ANY player. What Federer is doing at his age is nothing short of amazing. He regained no.1 spot for a while and won Wimbledon last year. At his age, that is a massive achievement. Granted, the difference between this Federer and 2006 Federer may not be huge, but in tennis losing half a step and/or a little bit of stamina is the difference between a grand slam champion and a runner up/semi-finalist.

I'm Nole fan, but in 4 years from now, when Nole starts losing frequently, are you going to make the same "prove it" argument? I am almost 100% certain that at 31 years of age, Nole will not be nearly as successful as Federer is right now.

For a while, I was of the same opinion, but then I re-watched some of Federer's matches from 2006/2007. There is no doubt in my mind that this version of Federer is (relatively speaking) a shadow of prime Federer. You may attribute that to the rise of competition, and partly that is true, but competition or no competition, it is clear that at his age, Federer is just that much slower and not as fit physically as he was back then, and that's all it takes.
Excellently put. What Fed is doing at his age is also very impressive because of how phydical the game has become the last 5 years or so.
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Re: Dubai SF: Tomas Berdych def. Roger Federer 3-6 7-6 (8) 6-4

I am sure that many young players at 25 or at 27 would like to play at the same level as Fed plays now.What Fed is doing at this stage of his career and this age is just incredible.For sure he has some physical problem but still whants to play and he does won so many titles GS,MS and has enough money.What does make him play really? He must love this game a lot
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