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View Poll Results: Who will win ?
Novak Djokovic 77 61.11%
Roger Federer 24 19.05%
Tomas Berdych 3 2.38%
Juan Martin Del Potro 6 4.76%
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 4 3.17%
Janko Tipsarevic 1 0.79%
Nikolay Davydenko 1 0.79%
Bernard Tomic 9 7.14%
Any other player 1 0.79%
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Re: WWW : ATP Dubaï 2013

Federer has been getting tougher draws than Djokovic after Wimbledon/Olympics. I suppose ITF/ATP think he already is overkilling it with the slam record and weeks as #1 record. Like, yeah, you got the slam and #1 record, enough already. No need to overdo it and obliterate any more records and make them look silly. Seventeen and 237 weeks are enough. Time for some new blood, FFS!!!
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Fakervic vs Mugicki 1st round...
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Winner of the projected SF between Nole and Delpo - so probably Nole. Another tough R1 for JMDP, Baghdatis now

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Re: WWW : ATP Dubaï 2013

Djokovic beating Berdych in the final
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Now that Berdych sees that Fed is in his half we can be assured he will do everything in his powers to reach the semis. After all that's what he lives for, knock out Fed only to lose in his next match ^^.
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Here is the draw : http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2013/495/mds.pdf

Possibles QF :
Djokovic-Seppi
Del Potro-Youzhny
Berdych-Tsonga
Federer-Tipsarevic

Come on Roger and Jo !
They put Berdych- Tsonga in the same quarter!

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his first rounds are easy, he will have time to adapt, and as you know he's always esp. motivated when he knows that Fed waits for him

And Tsonga may be defeated before QF by Llodra or maybe Tursunov.

I also would bet on a Djoko-Berdych final
Tsonga never lost to Llorda before 6-0 H2H. He should beat Llorda but Tursunov could be a very tough match. I still see a QF between Tsonga vs Berdych.

Novak wins the whole thing and his countryman Tipsarevic will continue his new trend of losing in the first round. Davydenko beats him in straight sets.
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I had thought qualifiers and wild cards were split evenly among the halves in a draw. And then the rest of the non-seeded players would be placed randomly among the remaining non-seeded slots.

For example, if 4 qualifiers and 4 wildcards, 2 qualifiers and 2 wildcards would be in each half.

But apparently, this is not the case. For Dubai, all 4 qualifiers landed in the upper half (Djokovic), while all 3 of the wildcards landed in the bottom half (Federer).

Does anyone know how the non-seeded portion of the drawing is actually done, or do tournaments decide themselves?

Are tournaments permitted to put non-seeded players where they want to get preferred match-ups?
In other words, is it in reality arranged placement instead of random placement?

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They put Berdych- Tsonga in the same quarter!
That would imply that draws are rigged. I mean yeah I believe they could be fixed sometimes, but you say it like it's a well known fact.
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Tsonga never lot to Llorda before 6-0 H2H.
3 of them were retirements in the first set or after the first set tie-break,

2 of them were tight,

and in the one in the Australian open this year, Llodra also had physical problems.

If Llodra in in good form and really fights, he can bother Tsonga.

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I had thought qualifiers and wild cards were split evenly among the halves in a draw. And then the rest of the non-seeded players would be placed randomly among the remaining non-seeded slots.

For example, if 4 qualifiers and 4 wildcards, 2 qualifiers and 2 wildcards would be in each half.

But apparently, this is not the case. For Dubai, all 4 qualifiers landed in the upper half (Djokovic), while all 3 of the wildcards landed in the bottom half (Federer).

Does anyone know how the non-seeded portion of the drawing is actually done, or do tournaments decide themselves?

Are tournaments permitted to put non-seeded players where they want to get preferred match-ups?
In other words, is it in reality arranged placement instead of random placement?
in theory (I mean if it's not rigged), it's purely random for non-seeded players and there are no special rules for qualifiers and wild-cards.

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Djokovic - Del Potro and Berdych/Tsonga - Federer semifinal would be great to watch. If the surface is fast as last year, Djoker isn't that heavy favourite. Federer needs to win this, because he already lost 400 points in Rotterdam, another lost in here and then in IW would be crucial for his ranking this year. Not to mention 1000 points defending from Madrid

It would be fun to watch Djoker-Fed final, surface may be fast as it was in Cincinnati.
There is no Murray to take him out though this year. Del Po will pose no challenge. Fed could obviously, but he'll have trouble versus Berdy/Tsonga on a fast court

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That would imply that draws are rigged. I mean yeah I believe they could be fixed sometimes, but you say it like it's a well known fact.
I think it's an expression : "they put" can mean "randomly".

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You are right duong and now I think that's what Muzzah meant in the 1st place. I stand corrected ^^
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That would imply that draws are rigged. I mean yeah I believe they could be fixed sometimes, but you say it like it's a well known fact.
I wasn't really asserting that the draw here was fixed, just expressing displeasure at the draw. But then again Dubai is an absolute monarchy with modern day slavery, so I wouldn't surprise me if they were fixing draws as well.

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