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Nadal isn't a talentless ballbasher like Pony so no.
A talentless retriever then?
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It happened when he was 20yo. Most players get better after 20yo; in fact it's safe to say all the current top players were better at 24/25 than they were at 20, none of them had their development halted by injury/surgery either.
Yeah, Hugh Witt is the only one I can really think of that didn't get better after late teens, early twenties.

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Nadal complains ,complains because he has a pain that is why,I am sure he is on medications every single day. How long is he going to play in this way? No one knows, I have a bad back for ten years with two surgeries and it is not easy at all, Every day is a fight against the pain
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Re: I feel like Nadal's comeback could be similar in pace to Del Potro's

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I have this gut feeling that Nadal is gonna take quite a while to return to his usual form.

Being out for 8 months is nothing to shrug off.
Del Potro had a similar injury break and took over a year to really return to full form.

What do you guys think?

Will he quickly regain his good form?
Will he take a year to get back to the top?
Is there anything that needs to happen to speed up the comeback?
I think the same. He has been out quite some time. People can't expect that he reaches his old form within a couple of weeks. It will take longer.
On clay he might still play good. But I think it will be good enough to beat players with a ranking outside the top 5. Against Djokovic or Federer he will also on clay have a difficult time ath the moment.
On other surfaces I think it will be even more difficult for Nadal this year...
It looks like that Djokovic has it's best shot ever at the French Open this year. But he still has to play good there to complete the career grand slam.


But I must say that I hope that Nadal reaches his old form again. Djokovic-Nadal finals are much better to watch than Djokovic-Murray finals...

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Re: I feel like Nadal's comeback could be similar in pace to Del Potro's

Nadal's comeback:

Made 250 final losing in 3 sets to Zebellos
Made 250 semi-final and playing for finals apperance.

Del Potro's comeback:
Lost first round 250 tournament to Oliver Rochus (who lost in the next round)
Lost first round 500 tournament to Feliciano Lopez (who lost in the next round)
Lost in second round of 250 tournament to Florian Mayer
Lost in second round of the Australian Open to Baghdatis
In his fifth tournament, he finally made his first 250 semi-final since his come-back, losing to Verdasco
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Re: I feel like Nadal's comeback could be similar in pace to Del Potro's

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No. Two key differences: Del Potro had surgery, Nadal didn't. Del Potro was 20yo and a developing player (and had that development halted), Nadal left the tour in the middle of his prime years. Also Del Potro went from #4 to below the top 400, Nadal is still top 8 which guarantees him good draws.

If Nadal gets back to his best (no guarantee he will), I'd expect it to happen faster than Del Potro for sure.
Nadal's prime ended in 2010, mid 20s. That is the age grinders's best is over.
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It hurts my eyes when people call Nadal just a 'grinder'. The guy has some beastly shots in his arsenal which people on here don't give him enough credit for. He makes things happen, matches are decided on his terms, especially on the big points. So don't count on him fading away so quickly just because he's a step slower, you'll be in for a big surprise.

His insane retrieving abilities are what elevate him from being a top 4 player and slam contender to being the best and most dominant player in the world, so he needs them back if he wants to get to where he used to be.

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No. Two key differences: Del Potro had surgery, Nadal didn't. Del Potro was 20yo and a developing player (and had that development halted), Nadal left the tour in the middle of his prime years. Also Del Potro went from #4 to below the top 400, Nadal is still top 8 which guarantees him good draws.

If Nadal gets back to his best (no guarantee he will), I'd expect it to happen faster than Del Potro for sure.
yup, delpo had it way worse

the only benefit delpo had back then which nadal doesn't right now, is the fact that delpo was a lot younger so he had time to recover. With nadal, I doubt it, he's 27 this year, even without the injury he would've hit the natural decline phase.
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Re: I feel like Nadal's comeback could be similar in pace to Del Potro's

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It hurts my eyes when people call Nadal just a 'grinder'. The guy has some beastly shots in his arsenal which people on here don't give him enough credit for. He makes things happen, matches are decided on his terms, especially on the big points. So don't count on him fading away so quickly just because he's a step slower, you'll be in for a big surprise.
More like you're in for a big surprise. If Nadal is struggling in these kind of matches, he'll be in big trouble against anyone from top 10.

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Re: I feel like Nadal's comeback could be similar in pace to Del Potro's

This is a repeat injury for Nadal, he's used to coming back from tendinitis in his knees. I don't think it will prove more disruptive than Del Potro's wrist injury, a horrible injury for a tennis player really. Would still expect it to be around 4-6 months till he's at his utter best though.
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He'll be fine as soon as Monte Carlo begins
yeah, I hope so

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yeah, I hope so
I don't think it's THAT bad to be honest. He looked much better in Vina del Mar than here in Sao Paulo, I didn't see the Zeballos match though. But now people are comparing his level on this terrible court to that of the players playing in Rotterdam etc. on a perfect hardcourt. It's just not a good indicator.

I think Nadal would've struggled here no matter what, even without an injury layoff.

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I think Nadal would've struggled here no matter what, even without an injury layoff.
Against Berlocq and Souza? Without injury layoff they wouldn't win 6 games combined

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Re: I feel like Nadal's comeback could be similar in pace to Del Potro's

Nadal is just playing very cautious now, he will be running as usual at Monte Carlo. If you watched his matches he barely moves.
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Re: I feel like Nadal's comeback could be similar in pace to Del Potro's

You can't compare two injuries at all, one had surgery and the other one didn't. But they both still had to recover for many months. But I think it will take rafa a long time to recover, I wouldn't be surprise if he lost to a lower ranked player or a player who he usually beats. Besides we don't know who the favorite. Just because that other player is playing so good and might be unbeatable that doesn't mean its gonna happen. There can be many others that are favorites we just don't know yet. So don't be surprise that an unranked player or a player you wouldn't imagine win a slam.
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