Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Wada IC report published) - Page 116 - MensTennisForums.com
View Poll Results: Does Tennis need more/stricter testing?
yes 351 83.37%
no 70 16.63%
Voters: 421. You may not vote on this poll

 339Likes
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1726 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 06:28 PM
Registered User
 
Serverer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,995
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiedis View Post
Mate, why are you wasting your time on a sports forum if you really think that? Are you trying to ease the frustration of your own failure of being proffesional? Why the heck are you so single-minded and obsessed with this topic? Have you thought that you can be incredibly tiresome and annoying?

Oh, so many questions for this modern Calimero
Its still possible to enjoy tennis and other sports even if you think everyone is doping. Im a big soccer fan but i have no illusions about whats going on there.

If were going to play Dr Phil allow me: If you so desperately want to stick your head in the sand and pretend everyone is clean, why do you keep opening and posting in this thread?

Supporter of the greatest human being and most talented tennis player in the world.


The Fog
Serverer is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #1727 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 06:29 PM
Registered User
 
rob_z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Age: 32
Posts: 899
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serverer View Post
lol what world are you living in if you dont think the above is true? as long as there is money in sports, there will be rampant doping. And im sure people cheat in sports without money as well.
Maybe the following quote of me is philosophical and a bit off-topic. But if we discuss doping (not playing by the rules), I would like to give my opinion why today ever more people dont play by the rules anymore. Some sportsmen as well as some bankers and other men dont play by the rules anymore.
It has also something to do with the way the entire world is changing. Todays there is an incredible stimulation to be "exceptional". In the past people had probably more ethical values. A good live would give you a place in heaven. Nowadays living a good live doesnt matter anymore. It is being exceptional matters. You have to be a winner and not a loser. And that has become much more important than ethical values or playing by the rules.
rob_z is offline  
post #1728 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 06:33 PM
Registered User
 
Kiedis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 6,866
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serverer View Post
Its still possible to enjoy tennis and other sports even if you think everyone is doping. Im a big soccer fan but i have no illusions about whats going on there.
Then take it ease and talk about tennis.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serverer View Post
If were going to play Dr Phil allow me: If you so desperately want to stick your head in the sand and pretend everyone is clean, why do you keep opening and posting in this thread?
I'm breaking a personal record today regarding to post in a forum, not only in this particular thread. I guess having a toe of my foot hurt is helping me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrChopin View Post
Keep going Serverer. Kiedis' rose-petaled Nadal fairytale is beginning to crumble under your "tiresome and annoying" pressure.
Come on tard, you should read him carefully, he is accussing your god too.

Free Edward Snowden | Free Brad Manning | Free SDG | Free CD | Free TSD

God is killing me

Last edited by Kiedis; 07-27-2013 at 06:55 PM.
Kiedis is offline  
 
post #1729 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 07:52 PM
Banned!
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,797
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serverer View Post
I cant be bothered to explain why youre wrong because youre obviously never gonna get it

At least try to make your posts coherent, i dont even know what that is supposed to mean.
Which incoherence did I post? Can you specify? I have already specified yours.
Chair Umpire is offline  
post #1730 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 08:00 PM
Registered User
 
janko05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,301
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EliSter View Post
Who the hell is this child? He should train more and talk shit less.
Should train more!? He already trains 7 hours a day, is 17 yo and never won a slam in his life
well, the field full of dopers doesn't exactly help his cause
janko05 is offline  
post #1731 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 09:04 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Age: 47
Posts: 3,574
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

It's making it hard for young players to break through

The law of nature,only the strong survive.




THE GREAT TACTICAL RIVALRY OF THE OPEN ERA
FEDERER 10 VS TONI NADAL 20
ADVANTAGE TONI NADAL
RAPHEAL NADULL,A PRETTY FACE & MUSCLE
NOTHING MORE

Fed 2 nadull 13 fed is nadull CLAY TURKEY. THE REAL ERA 2003-2010.
luie is offline  
post #1732 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 09:29 PM
Registered User
 
Mr. Oracle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,950
                     
Re: Quinzi believes Nole, Rafa and Fed dope!

Quote:
Originally Posted by janko05 View Post
http://english.gazzetta.it/More_spor...50118135.shtml

"It’s unlikely that Quinzi is out to label the biggest stars in tennis as “cheats” or expose them, but his comments will certainly not go unnoticed, especially as they are on such a sensitive subject. And especially following the suspension of another Serbian tennis player, Troicki, for failing to comply fully with anti-doping tests. [Troicki has been banned for 18 months for failing to provide a blood sample during a mandatory drugs test]..."
It's never smart for a young up-and-comer to criticize the guys at the top. The tour is very tight knit, and it's a community unto itself. While it's not possible to please everyone, he will soon realize that making enemies of powerful people will hurt his career. He should have been more discreet about it and not voiced his concerns in the media. Learn about the cloak and dagger technique kid--it will help your career. Youts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by luie View Post
It's making it hard for young players to break through
His approach is what is wrong. First, I'd send some anonymous letters to the powers that be (if I had legitimate concerns), then escalate from there.

Novak Djokovic nº1!
The Golden Era of Novak: Australian Open * Dubai * Indian Wells * Miami * Belgrade * Madrid * Rome * Wimbledon * Montreal * US Open * Abu Dhabi * Australian Open * Miami * Toronto * China * Shanghai * World Tour Finals 2012 * Australian Open 2013 * Dubai * Montecarlo * Beijing * Shanghai * Paris * WTF * Indian Wells * Miami * Rome * WIMBLEDON 2014 * AUSSIE OPEN 2015 * Indian Wells * Miami
Federer to Nole: "Amazing year. Amazing tournament. Amazing match. You are THE BEST!"
Either you get him or you don't!

Last edited by Mr. Oracle; 07-27-2013 at 09:39 PM.
Mr. Oracle is offline  
post #1733 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 10:25 PM
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,739
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by janko05 View Post
Should train more!? He already trains 7 hours a day, is 17 yo and never won a slam in his life
well, the field full of dopers doesn't exactly help his cause
He won Wimbledon.
star is offline  
post #1734 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-27-2013, 10:30 PM
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,739
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chair Umpire View Post
Which incoherence did I post? Can you specify? I have already specified yours.
This isn't a reply really, but I saw you here so thought I would let you know that Quinzi is coached by an Argentine former player.
star is offline  
post #1735 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 05:51 AM
Registered User
 
Jverweij's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Age: 35
Posts: 5,381
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

so back to the subject at hand. It seems that the ITF has finally succumbed to outside pressure and is starting to actually do something about doping. 3 "big" fish in 1 week. I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg. I also have a feeling the top 10 will remain unharmed by this newly discovered anti-doping zeal.

It's a weird situation for me. On the one hand I want them to catch every doping prick there is, but if this is just the beginning...tennis is starting to look alot like cycling.... still better to start over with a clean sheat than to let this charade go on.

MUGS TENNIS FORUMS

"a place for vultures and mugs to express their opinions about other vultures and mugs"
Jverweij is offline  
post #1736 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 05:54 AM
Registered User
 
Jverweij's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Age: 35
Posts: 5,381
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiedis View Post
^^ Why limit then to tennis? All profesional sportsmen are dopers in the line of your reasoning. No sport is clean, all of them are full of cheaters.

And all politicians are thieves and liars, why not.
This is probably mostly true, but this is a tennisforum. I for one, don't care about most other sports, so I have no idea about doping in other sports when it's not written about.

Your last sentence is spot on ofc

MUGS TENNIS FORUMS

"a place for vultures and mugs to express their opinions about other vultures and mugs"
Jverweij is offline  
post #1737 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 06:03 AM
Registered User
 
atennisfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 9,488
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Let's see which really really big star in 10 years time who will visit Oprah.

And when that happens, I hope the mods who have banned me for "alleging doping" remember.
atennisfan is offline  
post #1738 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 06:04 AM
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,739
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jverweij View Post
so back to the subject at hand. It seems that the ITF has finally succumbed to outside pressure and is starting to actually do something about doping. 3 "big" fish in 1 week. I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg. I also have a feeling the top 10 will remain unharmed by this newly discovered anti-doping zeal.

It's a weird situation for me. On the one hand I want them to catch every doping prick there is, but if this is just the beginning...tennis is starting to look alot like cycling.... still better to start over with a clean sheat than to let this charade go on.
I'd like to see what Monfils was taking before I make judgments.

I don't know if this is the result of more testing or if new tests have been developed. The drug takers are generally one or two steps ahead of the testing,
star is offline  
post #1739 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 06:08 AM
Registered User
 
Jverweij's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Age: 35
Posts: 5,381
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by star View Post
I'd like to see what Monfils was taking before I make judgments.

I don't know if this is the result of more testing or if new tests have been developed. The drug takers are generally one or two steps ahead of the testing,
sure, but there's no denying that things are changing. We've gone from banning a couple of players in the 100-200 range a year to 3 top 50 players in a week. This is a good sign.

MUGS TENNIS FORUMS

"a place for vultures and mugs to express their opinions about other vultures and mugs"
Jverweij is offline  
post #1740 of 5004 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 06:11 AM
Registered User
 
Jverweij's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Age: 35
Posts: 5,381
                     
Re: Doping in Tennis Thread (No accusations without proof. Quinzi's comment)

Quote:
Originally Posted by atennisfan View Post
Let's see which really really big star in 10 years time who will visit Oprah.

And when that happens, I hope the mods who have banned me for "alleging doping" remember.
You may have been right, but you were still saying this without any actual proof mate. The mods were right to ban given the current regulation on these forums. Whether or not this is the right attitude towards a healthy discussion is another thing ofcourse. Speculation can be insightful, as long as you state that it is just that

MUGS TENNIS FORUMS

"a place for vultures and mugs to express their opinions about other vultures and mugs"
Jverweij is offline  
Closed Thread

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome