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sorry, but there is nobody. Don't expect anything from Isner and Sam, it's not happening.

I thought Harrison would turn out to be good but he is too weak, too slow etc. Hopefully, he'll work hard and improve, but not so sure about it.
If Ryan Harrison has a problem, it's not that he's too slow.
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yep the USTA training system has ruined American tennis, nobody has style differences anymore, they just hug the baseline and try to serve and slug, no touch, very little slice etc.

This is the most evident when Americans play each other on challenger circuit and AO WC and stuff, its bland and predictable, nobody moves forward, they just hit until somebody shanks an error long, and nobody can hit a drop shot.

As for specifics.. Harrison is a headcase, that harms him, Kudla is fine but yes inconsistent, Williams and Sandgren are good but have clear weaknesses in their game that are exploitable, Kosakowski is undersized, Christian Harrison is a carbon copy of his brother just not quite as good right now.

Klahn is a big guy, not bad, and Sock has work ethic and arrogance issues (Merican tennis!)

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Donald Young, of course. Gonna win 15 straight grand slams in a row the legend he is.

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Are there any young Americans who don't play under the Roddick/Isner/Querrey style of big serve, big forehand?
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Donald Young, of course. Gonna win 15 straight grand slams in a row the legend he is.
It would be hilarious if Young found a decent coach and fulfilled some of the hyped potential

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Jack sock maybe only one who has a chance...in one or two years.

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American tennis is dead.

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I don't understand how we can have Agassi and Sampras and all the 80s stars and NOT have a potential superstar coming down the pike. I know Tennis is more of "class" sport and here it competes with many more sports then other countries but it's just mind boggling the State of American Tennis right now. It's not like Tennis has went away from the American style. You have to be great baseline players to win now.
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Because it's more important in today's tennis world to be a better athlete than a better tennis player. Over the past 100 years the US had dominated tennis because it was a "class" sport but as courts were built around the world and teaching techniques spread through less developed area, now everyone could afford to teach tennis to their young.

America only has a certain pool of genetic freaks with the type of athletic skills required to reach the pinnacle of any sport. Being that America is the greatest sporting nation in the world there are only so many of these freaks to go around. Sports like American Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, etc. can take many of the athletes that would be top American tennis players.

In the last 50 years as sports have become a very lucrative profession most American athlete tend to choose the most prestigious sports with the highest payday. In countries like Russia, Serbia, China, etc. tennis is one of the only ways out of poverty.

It's a two fold thing but basically America's top athletes are being seized by other sports and other countries have become much more invested in tennis and get a higher percentage of these top specimens.

Another American champion will rise but it may not be for some time and it's unlikely that America will ever see the dominance that it once did over the past century.

Like I said...American tennis is dead.

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Generation 1998 looks strong so far.

Kozlov, Mmoh and Tiafoe all inside top 5 of under 15 years old, but too early to call.

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Because it's more important in today's tennis world to be a better athlete than a better tennis player. Over the past 100 years the US had dominated tennis because it was a "class" sport but as courts were built around the world and teaching techniques spread through less developed area, now everyone could afford to teach tennis to their young.

America only has a certain pool of genetic freaks with the type of athletic skills required to reach the pinnacle of any sport. Being that America is the greatest sporting nation in the world there are only so many of these freaks to go around. Sports like American Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, etc. can take many of the athletes that would be top American tennis players.

In the last 50 years as sports have become a very lucrative profession most American athlete tend to choose the most prestigious sports with the highest payday. In countries like Russia, Serbia, China, etc. tennis is one of the only ways out of poverty.

It's a two fold thing but basically America's top athletes are being seized by other sports and other countries have become much more invested in tennis and get a higher percentage of these top specimens.

Another American champion will rise but it may not be for some time and it's unlikely that America will ever see the dominance that it once did over the past century.

Like I said...American tennis is dead.
That's only part of the explanation, surely. If we were to regard the European Union as one nation, it would have the US very comfortably beat as the world's greatest sporting nation even without the newer countries and thus with a similar population total. And the "old" EU has many, many top tennis players despite competition from at least as many sports, and similar amount of poverty to beat as the US.
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That's only part of the explanation, surely. If we were to regard the European Union as one nation, it would have the US very comfortably beat as the world's greatest sporting nation even without the newer countries and thus with a similar population total. And the "old" EU has many, many top tennis players despite competition from at least as many sports, and similar amount of poverty to beat as the US.
bla...bla...bla..if we regard North America, South America and Canada as a nation then it would have your EU nation beat.


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bla...bla...bla..if we regard North America, South America and Canada as a nation then it would have your EU nation beat.


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North America and Canada? So you don't think of Canada as a part of North America?

And btw, if we include all of Europe they beat all of America handily, even with less population. The "old" EU of 15 nations I compared with is not the whole story, you know. The US is best nation only because their 50 states have teamed up, in comparison to the 50 nations of Europe, which hasn't.
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One could search in almost any country for really promising youngsters and not find anyone, the US is hardly unique in that aspect.

Germany, France, Spain, all successful tennis nations, none of them have a future star at the moment.
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AMERICA IS THE GREATEST SPORTING NATION IN THE WORLD.
Only in sports the rest of the world doesn't care about like baseball and American football.

I don't really see any American youngsters with GS winning potential. Some of them will no doubt break the top 20 tough.
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