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Andy Murray ahead of RG

I don't see what's the real problem with Murray.The majority here seem to discredit his game too easily but it's quite similar to Djokovics' IMHO
He's talented, has a great team on his side, the whole country and media behind him and yet not up to the expectations.
Could he finally do some damage this clay season?

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Maybe. Depends on how much work Lendl decides to do with him on clay.

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I doubt it, there's a reason Mugray's only 47-30 in 30 career clay tournaments with 0 titles and even 0 finals appearances. He's absolutely putrid on clay and always will be.
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Re: Andy Murray ahead of RG

Djokovic can get a lot more spin on his forehand and slides/moves more naturally on a clay court.

I expect Murray to do as he normally does on the clay, living up to his seeding of SF, but being on the end of the odd upset too.

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Maybe. Depends on how much work Lendl decides to do with him on clay.
I know Lendl is an animal, mentality wise, but is Murray the person that could be driven alike?

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Re: Andy Murray ahead of RG

And we are still in January...

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I doubt it, there's a reason Mugray's only 47-30 in 30 career clay tournaments with 0 titles and even 0 finals appearances. He's absolutely putrid on clay and always will be.
and that was mainly pre-Lendl Murray

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And we are still in January...
and clay season is just around the corner

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Even if he does manage to win any clay titles at 250, 500, or Masters, he's NEVER going to win the FO or even make the final. He's just not good enough and guys like Rafa, Rogie, Djokovic, and Ferrer will always be there to stop him.
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Re: Andy Murray ahead of RG

Yes. I see this being his best year on clay yet.

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Even if he does manage to win any clay titles at 250, 500, or Masters, he's NEVER going to win the FO or even make the final. He's just not good enough and guys like Rafa, Rogie, Djokovic, and Ferrer will always be there to stop him.
I think he may surprise a couple of us here

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If Mugray wins the FO before Djokovic I'd be in shock for a long time.
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Even if he does manage to win any clay titles at 250, 500, or Masters, he's NEVER going to win the FO or even make the final. He's just not good enough and guys like Rafa, Rogie, Djokovic, and Ferrer will always be there to stop him.
2 of those guys that you mention are 31 and another is maybe showing signs of physical decline, they are always going to be there. With a good draw he can definitely get to a final.

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I don't see what's the real problem with Murray.The majority here seem to discredit his game too easily but it's quite similar to Djokovics' IMHO
He's talented, has a great team on his side, the whole country and media behind him and yet not up to the expectations.
Could he finally do some damage this clay season?
Maybe in Scotland but not here in England. He is made less of a national joke than Tim Henman but thats simply because he is a much better player. I know muzza is like the most followed tennis player on twitter but god knows how that is.. entire population of asia I guess. But you know what, I don't understand the amount of bile and hatred djoko fans on here seem to have towards the Highlander? Do these tards know muzza and djoko are very good friends off court?

Murray aint the most popular guy on the planet I know. Hell none of my mates give a shit about tennis, let alone Murray who they couldnt care either way about. Even my mum was saying Murray has no chance before the match started and that she likes djokovic more and hopes he wins
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Maybe in Scotland but not here in England. He is made less of a national joke than Tim Henman but thats simply because he is a much better player. I know muzza is like the most followed tennis player on twitter but god knows how that is.. entire population of asia I guess. But you know what, I don't understand the amount of bile and hatred djoko fans on here seem to have towards the Highlander? Do these tards know muzza and djoko are very good friends off court?

Murray aint the most popular guy on the planet I know. Hell none of my mates give a shit about tennis, let alone Murray who they couldnt care either way about. Even my mum was saying Murray has no chance before the match started and that she likes djokovic more and hopes he wins
I can see that his entitlement and constant bitching put some people off, but that's been reduced recently I believe

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