Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career? - Page 7 - MensTennisForums.com

View Poll Results: .
Yes 53 56.38%
No 41 43.62%
Voters: 94. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #91 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 05:14 PM
1 - 9 - 2 - 2 @ 14
 
Avinash.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,741
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

He surely is capable of surpassing Rafa's slams if the number stays at 11.

On the other hand if rafa gets his tally to 13-14 then it would be nearly impossible for Novak to catch up.People do seem to underestimate rafa because of the recent injury but i don't think he's done winning slams.

He's got enough time to build some rhythm going into the FO 2013 and i believe he's still the favourite to win this year's FO.

Avinash. is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #92 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 05:19 PM
country flag NID
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 7,236
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

can't really see him surpassing rafa atm. also depends a LOT on whether rafa will be able to add to his pile.

djoko has about 2 more yrs to rack up slams realistically, everything after turning 28 will be a bonus. so if he has two very good years he will have a shot at 10. and that is a very generous scenario.
NID is offline  
post #93 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 07:10 PM
Registered User
 
superslam77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: out of this world
Posts: 6,488
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

there will be no competition around besides murray and del potro. everyone else will be old. all the same players from 5-10 years ago but older and the youngsters are no good.

justin bieber is not the best in history.
funk was better than rap.
techno not better than classic rock.

numbers are not everything.
superslam77 is offline  
post #94 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 07:23 PM
Registered User
 
70-68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 840
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

IMO he can, but it's not going to be easy. Plus Nadal is not done yet, if he wins another 1-2 slams, then it would be almost impossible for the Djoker to surpass him.
Anyway, you never know what will happen in 1 or 2 years from now. If there are still no younger players who can challenge him, then he can win 2 slams per year for another 2-3 years, but he can decline as well, and not win more than 1 slam from now. He can also start to lose the close matches like the ones vs. Tsonga, or Wawrinka, and go slamless for more than a year. People forget that he was few points away from defeat in his last 3 slam wins.
70-68 is offline  
post #95 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 07:25 PM
Registered User
 
GOAT = Fed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 10,091
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

People are thinking slams grow on trees. Novak has only got 6 slams in 7/8 years on tour. At the moment, even if Nadal wins no slams, he will have to double his slam tally to surpass Nadal. Not an as easy a feat many are making it out to be.
GOAT = Fed is offline  
post #96 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 08:30 PM
Banned!
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 9,577
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Quote:
Originally Posted by End da Game View Post
he's already surpassed him in many ways, 4 AO's > 7 RG's

everyone knows hard courts is the most relevant surface in tennis, don't even try to deny that dulltards


SerialKillerToBe is offline  
post #97 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 08:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Age: 26
Posts: 2,570
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

How crazy would it be if nadal comes back and ends up winning 4-5 slams?
tests is offline  
post #98 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 08:42 PM
Registered User
 
Looner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 13,226
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tests View Post
How crazy would it be if nadal comes back and ends up winning 4-5 slams?
Not sure about crazy but disgusting it will be. I count on Djokovic to prevent that.


The "Who plays tennis?" thread


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Rod Laver
Roger is like a good red wine, he’s getting better with age.
Looner is offline  
post #99 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 09:00 PM
The new era of SuperNovak
 
Nole fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 14,624
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GOAT = Fed View Post
People are thinking slams grow on trees. Novak has only got 6 slams in 7/8 years on tour. At the moment, even if Nadal wins no slams, he will have to double his slam tally to surpass Nadal. Not an as easy a feat many are making it out to be.
Oh come on, you know you need some years to grow and mature before raking up slams, he's playing at his peak now and has won 5 slams in two years. But he's just 25. What makes you think he won't win many more slams in the next 3-4 years?

Plus it's not like the other players in the Top 15 are younger than him, quite the contrary.



Novak Djokovic nº1!

The Golden Era of Novak: Australian Open * Dubai * Indian Wells * Miami * Belgrade * Madrid * Rome * Wimbledon * Montreal * US Open * Abu Dhabi * Australian Open * Miami * Toronto * China * Shanghai * World Tour Finals 2012 * Australian Open 2013 * Dubai * Montecarlo * Beijing * Shanghai * Paris * WTF * Indian Wells * Miami * Rome * WIMBLEDON 2014 * AUSSIE OPEN 2015
Federer to Nole: "Amazing year. Amazing tournament. Amazing match. You are THE BEST!"
Nole fan is offline  
post #100 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 09:08 PM
Registered User
 
GOAT = Fed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 10,091
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nole fan View Post
Oh come on, you know you need some years to grow and mature before raking up slams, he's playing at his peak now and has won 5 slams in two years. But he's just 25. What makes you think he won't win many more slams in the next 3-4 years?

Plus it's not like the other players in the Top 15 are younger than him, quite the contrary.
I'm not saying he can't do it, I'm just saying that people are being way too casual in saying that he will get to 12 slams. He has to double his slam tally right now at 25, will be 26 when RG comes around. I'd say he has about 1-2 years max to dominate like he did in 2011 and he hardly ever brings that level to court nowadays.

And the 5 slams in 2 years is a bit misleading in my opinion. 3 of those 5 were won in one year on the form of his life, and 3 of those 5 were won on one surface [AO]. Yes he can do it but realistically he won't do it I think, especially if Nadal wins more slams. I'd give Djokovic 10-11 slams max. Winning slams is not an easy feat.
GOAT = Fed is offline  
post #101 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 09:10 PM
Registered User
 
TBkeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 21
Posts: 4,327
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Voted for "NO" = Nadal's Over.
............still better than Djokovic though

MR. FOREVER "UNDERRENTED"

SLAMS: 4 SEMIS, 6 QUARTERS
WTF: 1 TITLE, 1 FINAL, 1 SEMI
MASTERS: 3 TITLES, 5 SEMIS, 10 QUARTERS
TITLES: 21
MATCH WIN/LOSS: 482-329

Last edited by TBkeeper; 01-27-2013 at 09:31 PM.
TBkeeper is offline  
post #102 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 09:12 PM
The new era of SuperNovak
 
Nole fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 14,624
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GOAT = Fed View Post
I'm not saying he can't do it, I'm just saying that people are being way too casual in saying that he will get to 12 slams. He has to double his slam tally right now at 25, will be 26 when RG comes around. I'd say he has about 1-2 years max to dominate like he did in 2011 and he hardly ever brings that level to court nowadays.

And the 5 slams in 2 years is a bit misleading in my opinion. 3 of those 5 were won in one year on the form of his life, and 3 of those 5 were won on one surface [AO]. Yes he can do it but realistically he won't do it I think, especially if Nadal wins more slams. I'd give Djokovic 10-11 slams max. Winning slams is not an easy feat.
Of course it's not an easy feat, but he's got already 6 and that makes him one of the best players in history, a legend. I'm happy with that even if he doesn't win any more, though I'm sure he will win a lot more. Nowadays these guys make it look easy to win a slam because there are basically 4 contenders winning them all the time. But it's a freaking stat.



Novak Djokovic nº1!

The Golden Era of Novak: Australian Open * Dubai * Indian Wells * Miami * Belgrade * Madrid * Rome * Wimbledon * Montreal * US Open * Abu Dhabi * Australian Open * Miami * Toronto * China * Shanghai * World Tour Finals 2012 * Australian Open 2013 * Dubai * Montecarlo * Beijing * Shanghai * Paris * WTF * Indian Wells * Miami * Rome * WIMBLEDON 2014 * AUSSIE OPEN 2015
Federer to Nole: "Amazing year. Amazing tournament. Amazing match. You are THE BEST!"
Nole fan is offline  
post #103 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 09:19 PM
Registered User
 
GOAT = Fed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 10,091
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nole fan View Post
Of course it's not an easy feat, but he's got already 6 and that makes him one of the best players in history, a legend. I'm happy with that even if he doesn't win any more, though I'm sure he will win a lot more. Nowadays these guys make it look easy to win a slam because there are basically 4 contenders winning them all the time. But it's a freaking stat.
Yeah I think he will certainly win many more slams, although I'm not so convinced that he will catch up with Nadal is all. I think last year showed us how quickly things can change in tennis.
GOAT = Fed is offline  
post #104 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 09:48 PM
Banned!
 
heya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,580
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

Nadal needed luck at the French Open but Djokovic can't win 12+ Slams? LOLOL
Federina wishes he looks as bossy as NoleharmsFederina.
heya is offline  
post #105 of 116 (permalink) Old 01-27-2013, 10:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Age: 30
Posts: 1,993
                     
Re: Will Nole surpass Nadal's GS count at the end of their career?

At the moment Djokovic seems like the favorite for the AO and USO when he is fit, and have a chance to win one of the other two. Personally I expect him two win around 2 slams on average a year with this form. About 6-9 more to pass Nadal? So that is roughly 4 years at his current form and the form of the current competition.

But fitness and also confidence can drop anytime, Djokovic relies heavily on both. His serve and forehand(two most important shots in tennis) are decent for top10 level but he can't really make the difference with these shots. Other top10 members will come in the next 4 years with a better serve and/or a better fh than Djokovic and Djokovic must be faster than them also when he is 29 if he is to pass Nadal in my opinion.

Federer (and Nadal on clay) had in their prime super movement but also the best shots, so at that time they looked more dominant than Djokovic now. I think they were able to win a couple of slams when they were not at their peak fitness due to their better shots when their movement was all of a sudden not that superior . So for them it was fitnesswise easier to be in contention for slams so many years.

I don't expect Djokovic to get more slams when he leaves the top3. And keeping his fitness at this level for another 4 years will be hard. He has been sliding the hardcourts at top level since 2007... But on the other hand when I saw him doing that in 2007 I thought he would go the hewitt road with his fitness. The guy must have the perfect body to move around a tennis court.
buzz is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome