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View Poll Results: Do you like Murray-Djokovic matches
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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

Okay that's a good point, but besides that there really isn't much else?

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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

Better point construction, usually, but he really needs to considering his ground strokes are less penetrating.
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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

better first serve, more variety, better touch (dropshot and other shots in strange position), better volley, better defense on forehand,

I also think better backhand because he can vary it more with better slice.

But the forehand, the return, the mental strength (aptitude in tough conditions, motivation) are worse imo, even the movement I think (Murray is tall with big legs and I think it weakens his movement in the long run), and that's a lot. Esp mental strength.

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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

Consistency
Anticipation
Return of serve

Unless Djokovic always plays like in the last AO from now on.
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Good looks.
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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

Where is Terra Massive?

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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

If Djokovic has better volleys than Murray then I'm fucking Charlie Sheen.

All groundstrokes and return of serve are better for Djokovic because he is always in the right mindset for what he can do with them: which is being aggressive.

Going for your shots wins you grand slams, bitches.
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overall I think he has a better feeling of how building the points, but sometimes it also becomes too much confused when you think too much

It's better being clever at tennis but with not too many options and a very efficient and pragmatic mind : look Nadal, he's the best at that

But Djokovic is not as good as Nadal for that either : sometimes he looks as missing options, he doesn't know what to do anymore and makes a bad shot.

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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

Wait for Terra Massive coming back from school
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overall I think he has a better feeling of how building the points, but sometimes it also becomes too much confused when you think too much

It's better being clever at tennis but with not too many options and a very efficient and pragmatic mind : look Nadal, he's the best at that

But Djokovic is not as good as Nadal for that either : sometimes he looks as missing options, he doesn't know what to do anymore and makes a bad shot.
Murray's game, in his ordinary form is good for matches like the one against Melzer and Dolgopolov, not the ones against the top tier: Nadal, Djokovic, Federer and whomever might come after that.

Maybe he'll improve and learn how to switch gears soon but this where he is at now.
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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

Who is better on grass, Murray or Djokovic? I've always thought Murray. Both made the Wimbledon SF but Murray challenged Nadal (in the 3 sets). I wonder if Djokovic would be able to keep the sets close like that vs Nadal on grass...
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Maybe he's grounded so he can't sign on MTF to say Murray got everything better then Nole.
I remember he made a thread about how Murray's forehand was better than Djokovic's . Pretty sure we're gonna get another one of those brilliant analysis.
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Re: What Does Murray Have Over Djokovic?

Isolated - a lot of things mostly revolving around his net game. I think given space, murray can have slightest, percentage-wise almost impalpable, edge.

but he lacks offensive play that djoker has in abundance, so this question can be misleading. in the end, its where the ball lands.

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Who is better on grass, Murray or Djokovic? I've always thought Murray. Both made the Wimbledon SF but Murray challenged Nadal (in the 3 sets). I wonder if Djokovic would be able to keep the sets close like that vs Nadal on grass...
Djokovic actually took a set off Nadal on grass,something Murray never did.Still regardless I do think Murray's more natural on grass than Novak.
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