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i'm sure the football players hated the offside rule.

Any novelty is generally hated by the mass, it's just how human nature works. And it doesn't mean one thing is bad or not.

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i'm sure the football players hated the offside rule.

Any novelty is generally hated by the mass, it's just how human nature works. And it doesn't mean one thing is bad or not.
True, it doesn't, but I've seen others post about why they think it is bad (e.g. the intention is to help the returner but in practise it turns out to help the server more). Why do you think this rule is good?
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True, it doesn't, but I've seen others post about why they think it is bad (e.g. the intention is to help the returner but in practise it turns out to help the server more). Why do you think this rule is good?
It helps the server more with overall 1 point per match, which is absolutely nothing.

If there are on average 4-5 lets per match, 2 are neutral, 2 help the server, one helps the returner.

So it makes no sense at all to have an unreliable machinery, which unfine tuning either beeps for unexisting lets, or fails to beep at obvious ones.

This is a worse problem overall as it is unfair, it's slowing down the play, it's creating unnecessary discussions and even fights during play, so why on earth having such a stupid rule?

Traditions? That's the word that's been holding the World back for centuries. Traditions are overrated.

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It helps the server more with overall 1 point per match, which is absolutely nothing.

If there are on average 4-5 lets per match, 2 are neutral, 2 help the server, one helps the returner.

So it makes no sense at all to have an unreliable machinery, which unfine tuning either beeps for unexisting lets, or fails to beep at obvious ones.
One point per match systematic advantage on average is surely much more of a problem than 1 or 2 random faulty let calls per tournament by the machine.
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Maxime Teixeira (#269 atp) said he liked the rule ("it's a fact game") but implied that majority of players didn't.

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i'm sure the football players hated the offside rule.

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i remember when we started havin 32 seeds at slams instead of 16, and removing the break after first game of the set, almost all the players were against it...

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Common sense has prevailed. It is a little frustrating when the ball just feathers the net and a let is called but in too many other instances it creates a lottery that rewards luck over skill.
it can happen the same during the point and they just keep playing

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This was to speed up matches, why not just speed up the courts, to speed up matches. Though challengers are quicker than tour events.
not to speed up matches but to reduce dead moments at tennis. which honestly, they are a lot. i think it was a good new rule, it made the sport more attractive in my eyes

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One point per match systematic advantage on average is surely much more of a problem than 1 or 2 random faulty let calls per tournament by the machine.
uh no, you're wrong, the "systematic" advantage is one point from 150 per match, it doesn't change anything at all whatsoever

i have several good reasons (ok, few good reasons) to get rid of it and i can't see any reason for keeping it, except the overrated traditions and the fear of the unkown/change.

But i understand it's only athletes, one cannot expect them to have a too high thinking level.

That's why no one asks football players for their opinion. They just tell them what has been decided.

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I'd like to see the no-let rule on the ATP. Not only it reduces dead moments, it also adds consistency to the rules. I don't like this disparity that on rallies play continues but on serves it doesn't.

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i remember when we started havin 32 seeds at slams instead of 16
Another change that never should have been made.
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I'd like to see the no-let rule on the ATP. Not only it reduces dead moments, it also adds consistency to the rules. I don't like this disparity that on rallies play continues but on serves it doesn't.
It has been already said tonnes of times - it's because you can replay the serve from the exact same situation before the let, but you can't do that in a rally.

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anyone knows when and why has this (dumb) rule been created?

Can't find anything about it

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i remember when we started havin 32 seeds at slams instead of 16, and removing the break after first game of the set, almost all the players were against it...
Actually not. If it's a good innovation that actually benefits the game then it's popular this doesn't.

Lets see every point a scoring point in volleyball rule change that benefited the game. The keeper not picking up a back pass I was playing at the time when that was introduced. Very little complaints because it made sense and benefited the game.

You know why the seedings were changed. Cause Wimbledon didn't want the top players with better clay results boycotting the event because they were disrespected by the seeding committee.

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