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View Poll Results: Vote the biggest victims of Surface slowness
Berdych 60 40.00%
Tsonga 88 58.67%
Del Potro 42 28.00%
Nadal 10 6.67%
Federer 79 52.67%
Murray 8 5.33%
Djokovic 7 4.67%
Simon 5 3.33%
Almagro 8 5.33%
Tomic 11 7.33%
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Re: Vote the biggest victims of Surface slowness

Berdych and Tsonga.

In Berdych's case the slower courts do help him set up his shots but regardless of that he would still be much better on faster courts.
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AO is the slowest, i think everyone agrees on that, and Wimbledon is the fastest.
I think the AO is slightly faster this yaer....and it now goes:

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Del Po no, his kind of game suits slow courts as well, and he doesn't move well enough. I don't get the "big forehand" MTF legend (did Lenders watch Del Po-Chardy ? I remember I thought of what he tells us "when the rally goes to Del Po's forehand, it's game over for the opponent" )
Del Potro generates his power from big swings, not by redirecting power of other players shots. On fast courts, Del Po wouldn't be able to generate his swing.

Out of the top players, Tsonga most definately. He's a classic example of a player born in the wrong era. Other examples include Llodra, and other S&V's (not many these days )

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Tsonga. I think Berdych and Del Potro cope just fine on the HC as they are at the moment. Both guys are also very good on the clay.

Glad those awful servebots are disadvantaged.

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Re: Vote the biggest victims of Surface slowness

Tsonga and Berdych. Del Potro could use faster courts for sure, but not too fast since he needs time for his very long strokes - the USO before being slowed down is probably the ideal surface for him. For Berdych and especially Tsonga, the faster the better.

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Tsonga by far. He was born in the wrong era.
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federer would have won AO 2008 and 2011 and 12
US open 2009 2010 2011 2012 100% if it was as fast as it was in sampras' day

a slower Rg would have suited roger- he bagled dull at hamburg
on very slow clay 2005-2007 federer can beat nadal

basically federer should have at least 2 calender grand slams but homogenized surfaces screwed him over

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federer would have won AO 2008 and 2011 and 12
US open 2009 2010 2011 2012 100% if it was as fast as it was in sampras' day

a slower Rg would have suited roger- he bagled dull at hamburg

on very slow clay 2005-2007 federer can beat nadal

basically federer should have at least 2 calender grand slams but homogenized surfaces screwed him over
I think low bounce was very important in that also, making Rafa's topspin shots less effective. That "Hamburg effect" could also be seen in last year's RG final. Rain lowered bounce and Nole took 3rd set.

Anyway, faster clay would also benefit Roger. Madrid's fast, low-altitude clay has been good for Fed. And Madrid's blue clay even better.

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federer would have won AO 2008 and 2011 and 12
US open 2009 2010 2011 2012 100% if it was as fast as it was in sampras' day

a slower Rg would have suited roger- he bagled dull at hamburg
on very slow clay 2005-2007 federer can beat nadal

basically federer should have at least 2 calender grand slams but homogenized surfaces screwed him over

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Tsonga and a bunch of players not in the poll. Including Nadal and Simon is just asinine.

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Pink getting 20 votes compared to poll leader Tsonga's 30 is the joke of the century. Murray getting 5 and Nadal getting 3 is bordering insanity. pinktards have no clue.
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federer would have won AO 2008 and 2011 and 12
US open 2009 2010 2011 2012 100% if it was as fast as it was in sampras' day

a slower Rg would have suited roger- he bagled dull at hamburg
on very slow clay 2005-2007 federer can beat nadal

basically federer should have at least 2 calender grand slams but homogenized surfaces screwed him over
Just a tragic post.
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Federer /thread.

YEah Tsonga and Berdych might have made it a bit further in GS and perhaps, at most, won a grand slam or two. Federer has probably been duped out of 5/6 more grand slams because of the darned surfaces.

Oh well, that's life I guess.
poor pink leading a miserable life in this slow era with 17 grandslams, No? Seriously pinktards are just
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Re: Vote the biggest victims of Surface slowness

Tsonga and Berdych.

Del Potro has a huge backswing on his shots, he would lose to all kinds of big servers on fast courts. Point in case: match against Brands in Vienna. (Vienna was fast last year for some weird reason).
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federer would have won AO 2008 and 2011 and 12
US open 2009 2010 2011 2012 100% if it was as fast as it was in sampras' day

a slower Rg would have suited roger- he bagled dull at hamburg
on very slow clay 2005-2007 federer can beat nadal

basically federer should have at least 2 calender grand slams but homogenized surfaces screwed him over
worst and I mean the worst fucking thing(not post) thing I have read in my life

so what you said is that Fed didnt win AO 2008,2011,2012 because court was too slow(even though he won AO 2010 at same speed) BUT he would have won RG is CLAY was SLOWER
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