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Tomic more dangerous than Berdych? Give me a break man.

When Tomic beat anyone from top 4 players ever on grand slam?

Same applies for Raonic.

Berdych is most dangerous guy on grand slam outside top 4 players.
I never meant to say Tomic is more dangerous than Berdych, of course he is not lol. I mean there are some other players dangerous..not just Berdych, so you can't say Roger's draw is easy just because there is not Berdych on it.

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Also Berdych is a QF opponent, Roger had some tough ones in third round, fourth round, that can be tricky.

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I never meant to say Tomic is more dangerous than Berdych, of course he is not lol. I mean there are some other players dangerous..not just Berdych, so you can't say Roger's draw is easy just because there is not Berdych on it.
And tell me names of that players ? Who can beat Federer on hard court slam outside top 4 except Berdych. Tsonga did it once , true , but that was on low bouncing grass on Wimby.

I dont think that he have a chance to replay that here but I would like more than anything - that I am wrong here.

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Outstanding play on that bp. Djokovic was ahead in that point at the start.

If Berdych can't keep a double break lead I'm done with tennis.
Djokovic took set 6-4 against Berdych.

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Tomic more dangerous than Berdych? Give me a break man.

When Tomic beat anyone from top 4 players ever on grand slam?

Same applies for Raonic.

Berdych is most dangerous guy on grand slam outside top 4 players.
Show some fairness man!

Lets not compare oranges with apples here - don't mix everything up!

R3 Nole had Stephanek (lol) Fed had Tomic
R4 Nole had Wawa, Fed hadRoanic
1/4 Final Djoker has Birdy, Fed has Tsonga, seems kinda fair to me...

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Milos was terrible, if he didn't have a serve this would have really been a triple bagel, he was that bad.

And Roger wasn't even good, but he didn't need to be, hit the ball in the court watch Milos miss
No, disagree. Roger's balls are harder to return than Djokovic's. It has different angles and bounce, speed every shot. Raonic's UEs are forced.

Even Djokovic himself can't retrieve against Roger in every game. He also made some of similar UEs in their MU.

Only Rafa is not afraid of variety.
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Yes I would if they will make me play tennis like Roger. Besides, it's cool when a man wears the color pink. It projects confidence in your own masculinity and proves that you don't care what idiots with a low IQ might say. I guess Roger could have his dad wear T-shirts with face emblazened on them and wear tacky dragons all over his shirts.
Bold part is absolutely true. I think some people made fun of my pink shirt in the "MTF pictures members" as well but I don't care. If it looks okay on you, the ladies love it so I don't care what internet posters over here say about that. I do think the Pink&Grey from Fed is an extremely good combination.

The Italic part made me So true, although Nole wears a little better now, those juvenile falcon/dragon things on his shirts and the shirts with his own face on it are absolutely stupid looking. And we aren't even talking about those clown shoes (in Serbian colors) he wore a couple years ago. So let the Noletards (not reasonable fans) judge their own player first.


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Djoker will make Federer his bitch in years to come.

He already did that with his wins over Fed in USO 2011, USO 2010, RG 2012 and London 2012.

But hold your breath to see what will come to him in years to come.
You always gonna have that kind of tendence. Fed is 31 years old now, while Nole is in the strength of his life.
It's amazing that Fed is still able to win some of the matches against Murray/Nole from time to time in my opinion. I'd like to see where Murray/Nadal/Nole will stand when they are Roger's age.

And yes, you can also say that Fed got a couple of W's when Nole was young and reckless and Roger was in the strength of his life so I think their H2H is pretty much even when they will both retire. And this coming from a Fedfan.


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And tell me names of that players ? Who can beat Federer on hard court slam outside top 4 except Berdych. Tsonga did it once , true , but that was on low bouncing grass on Wimby.

I dont think that he have a chance to replay that here but I would like more than anything - that I am wrong here.
That only tell you how great Roger is. Normally these players won't beat Roger or other top players like Djokovic or Murray, but that's the beauty of this sport. Tell me..do you expected Wawrinka to play that good? Of course not , he played the match of his life, same as Wawrinka another player out of the top 4 can play that good against Roger or another top player and beat them.

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But those were true charges, and Federer was far from the only one saying it. The real question is what happened to those "real health and breathing issues"?

No Federer said that with desire to humiliate and insult Djokovic.

He had asthma and his health problems were real. Once he found doctor from Belgrade, who created him gluten free diet, he started to crash your idol .

He is 7-3 against Fed since he is gluten-free.

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Outstanding play on that bp. Djokovic was ahead in that point at the start.

If Berdych can't keep a double break lead I'm done with tennis.
Djokovic took set 6-4 against Berdych.

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Wawrinka wasnt tough opponent for Federer.

But if he was in Fed's side of a draw , and if he delivered same kind of A game which he did against Djokovic I am sure Federer would loose that match.

Simply because Djokovic is better defender and grinder than Federer is.

Also Djokovic has bigger balls and mental strength .

Federer has better serve and forehand.

But Djokovic is able to nullify his serve and FH with his ROS and great defense.
Don't hypothesize too much. As i said Djokovic's shots are easier to return than Roger's. Its easy to bring A game to Djoker.

Wawa won't bring the same type of game against Roger. Everything will go to net.
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Djoker will make Federer his bitch in years to come.

He already did that with his wins over Fed in USO 2011, USO 2010, RG 2012 and London 2012.

But hold your breath to see what will come to him in years to come.
Roger is already 31 years old, he already is not the same as his best years, we all know that, while Djokovic is in his prime, anyway Roger is still playing some great tennis.

London 2012?

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That only tell you how great Roger is. Normally these players won't beat Roger or other top players like Djokovic or Murray, but that's the beauty of this sport. Tell me..do you expected Wawrinka to play that good? Of course not , he played the match of his life, same as Wawrinka another player out of the top 4 can play that good against Roger or another top player and beat them.
match which Wawrinka played against Djokovic happens once in decade thats why no one thinks that would happen.

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Outstanding play on that bp. Djokovic was ahead in that point at the start.

If Berdych can't keep a double break lead I'm done with tennis.
Djokovic took set 6-4 against Berdych.

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Roger is already 31 years old, he already is not the same as his best years, we all know that, while Djokovic is in his prime, anyway Roger is still playing some great tennis.

London 2012?
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Outstanding play on that bp. Djokovic was ahead in that point at the start.

If Berdych can't keep a double break lead I'm done with tennis.
Djokovic took set 6-4 against Berdych.

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“Does Djokovic resemble myself?” Agassi said. “No, he is even better. He defends really well, while I struggled more in that element of the game. Novak looks totally relaxed when defending, completely calm and the quality of his return is incredible. He is also extremely flexible in his game, which is facilitated by his ability to anticipate his rival’s moves. That is why I think he is a much more versatile player than I was and he is also much more athletic.”
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