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NO doubt EPO would make a huge difference in tennis too. If you are much fresher than your opponent after 4-5 hours of play you have a big advandage.
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hypocritical much there djokovic?

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A Dutch reporter recently took EPO for a week and his performance increased 10% in 10 days without training.

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Perhaps the reason it appears so clean is because they don't fucking test for seven months at a time. Anyone with any common sense knows it's an epidemic in tennis like it was in cycling ten years ago for the same reasons- Players ahead of the programs in terms of doping technology and the authorities helping cover up positive tests and suspicious test avoidance



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Djokovic was just being a nice guy and trying to make tennis look good. Certainly there is room for improvement in terms of testing, but I am doubtful that any changes will actually be made.
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But surely Djokovic knows that the doping controls in tennis are a joke, much worse than the ones in cycling?
You know, I don't think so. From the players' perspectives, they get 10ish tests a year in competition, and have to give location data 365 days a year. That would be a major pain in the ass to comply with.


The problem of course is that the dopers have easy ways to avoid the tests. As Armstrong said last night, they have no fear of in-competition testing because they know they've flushed everything out of their system.

Armstrong also said blood passports work against doping (tennis doesn't use them), as does out of competition testing (tennis does such a microscopic number there's zero chance of catching anyone).


Is there doping in tennis? With basically no anti-doping system to speak of? Of course there is. Fuentes worked with hundreds of world class athletes, and said in 2006 that 20% of his clients were tennis players - he said that if he talked, Spain would lose the World Cup, and strangely enough the Spanish authorities buried the list of his clients



It's the dilemma of any governing body:

1) test properly, you will catch lots, and the sport's image will get ruined.

2) give up on testing, the dopers will take over.


Cycling chose number 1 - they do mammoth numbers of tests. Tennis chose 2.

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Novak is talking tripe I'm afraid. He's either naive or hiding something (hopefully the former) as doping controls in tennis are so lax it allows someone to use Lance's drugs and methods and get away with it.

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Good interview. I don't think Djokovic is doping. And I like what he said about Armstrong. Absolute disgrace that guy. One of the heros of 'Clay Death' of course. I saw an interview with Dennis Miller where he says Armstrong bullied people into not saying anything about his doping by threatening them. Sounds a lot like that bully Clay Death and of course we all know who else that poster worshiped. Connect the dots.

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NO doubt EPO would make a huge difference in tennis too. If you are much fresher than your opponent after 4-5 hours of play you have a big advandage
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As far as Armstrong goes, is it really cheating everyone in the sport was all taking the same stuff? That's like saying I scored a 78 but the teacher curved that letter grade from a C+ to a be B+...it's not cheating because everyone was graded on the same curve. Lance Armstrong is a hero and also one of the greatest athletes of our generation. He was the best cyclist the world has ever seen, even if he and athletes he competed against took substances deemed "illegal" by the sport.
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If I was a professional (clean) tennis player I would want as much testing as possible to catch the cheaters. Anyone who doesn't want more testing or constantly complains about it is a suspect in my eyes.
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Someone already got banned earlier today for insinuations regarding doping. I see a few of you in here are skating close to it again as well (some of the usual suspects).

No poster on here knows much of anything about doping as it pertains to high level sport so don't speak as if you do.

Djokovic has a right to his own opinions and there is nothing exceptional in anything he said.
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All I can say is that Armstrong and people helping him are a disgrace for sport and entire humanity.
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what he said about Armstrong is true. I watched that pathetic interview on Operah. I hate doping, and that's it. what Armstrong got away with is out of this world. He doped, he won all that sh!t, he is super rich, and he pretends he is a victim . cry me a river.

doping is big no, no in any sport but many of you guys are speculating too much about doping in tennis. I'm not saying it doesn't exist but unless there is a valid proof that a player is doping we shouldn't be even discussing it.
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weird how so much questioning by the press put to djokovic was on lance armstrong, who knew cycling was even that big?
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