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Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

I find that every continent should have its own Grand Slam. Nowadays Europe has two Grand Slams (Roland Garros, Wimbledon), North-America one (US Open; and the World champs/Master Cup) and Australia/Oceania one (Australian Open), but there isn't a Grand Slam in Asia, in South America and Africa.

Asia has good players for example Paradorn Srichapan (THA/27), H-Y Lee (KOR/66) ,Sargis Sagasian (ARM/75) or Irakli Labadze (GEO/78) on the ATP Tour and Ai Sugiyama (JPN/17), Anna Smashnova (ISR/32), Shinobu Asagoe (JPN/37), Tamarine Tanasugarn(66), Jie Zheng(CHN/67), Akiko Morigami (JPN/68), Shuai Peng (CHN/73) or Li Na (CHN/80) on the WTA Tour, so why doesn't Asia has it's own Grand Slam?

I understand a bit that Africa doesn't have a Grand Slam because of a less of top players and also of money, but why doesn't South America have an own Grand Slam?
With Guillermo Coria (6),Gaston Gaudio (10), David Nalbandian (9), Guiellermo Canas J.I Chela (26) (all Argentinia), Nicolas Massu (CHI/18), Fernando Gonzalez (CHI/22) or the former French Open champion Gustavo Kuerten of Brasil on the ATP Tour and Paola Suarez (ARG/16), Fabiola Zuluaga (COL/23), Gisela Dulko (ARG/32) and Maria Vento Kabchi (VEN/49) on the WTA tour, they have so many talented players and really deserves to have an own Grand Slam! ( SOUTH AMERICA IS CONSIDERED AS AN OWN CONTINENT)

It is really unbelievable that Asia and South America have this disadvantage. It is not fair, because Europe or North America have 2 Grand Slams or 1 Grand Slam and 1 YEC (World Champs/Masters Cup) and apart from Australia the other continents have nothing!

It would be a good idea to introduce a fifth Grand Slam in Asia and to move the YEC (WTA champs/ Master Cup) to South America. Thus everybody would be happy! (Or the other way round!)

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in theory great idea but the schedule is packed as it is...where are u going to find the time?
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Re: Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

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in theory great idea but the schedule is packed as it is...where are u going to find the time?

Yes, you are right!


But: The actual constellation is not fair at all.

Like in football where Australia/Oceania have no direct place on the World Championships, but Europe and South America so many. It's ridiculous, because the low countries show us that they are improving alot (South Corea in the semis, Senegal in the quarterfinal for example!).

And so it is in tennis. South America has more Top 30 players at the atp tour than North America and Asia has more Top 50 players on wta tour than Australia, but they don't have a big event.
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Re: Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

You cannot just arbitrarily declare that a tournament is a grand slam, you need tradition behind it. It is a lack of tradition which means even something truly special like the olympics is not yet seen as important in tennis as one of the grand slams.

The lack of masters series events in Asia and South America should change, however, and they can then try to attract the prestige that might eventually turn them into the equals of the grand slams.
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Yes, you are right!



Like in football where Australia/Oceania have no direct place on the World Championships, but Europe and South America so many. It's ridiculous, because the low countries show us that they are improving alot (South Corea in the semis, Senegal in the quarterfinal for example!).
don't get me started on how shitty fifa treats oceania

i'm a long suffering socceroos fan and i have had too many heartbreaks with respect to non qualification into the world cup - fifa gave us direct qualification last year but then turnaround 3 months later and took it back, really pissed me off
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Re: Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

The YEC should be moved to Asia.

South America won't have any tournaments as long as the financial situation there remains unstable. I don't think they will be able to finance and host such a big event there, though it would be fair if every continent has its own major event.

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Re: Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

Nah, I think a fifth Grand Slam would be too much...

I would be happy if we had a TMS in South America though.

Anyone of these cities could host a TMS:

Buenos Aires TMS
Sao Paulo TMS
Rio de Janeiro TMS
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TMC next year is going back to Shanghai isn't it? at least that's something....

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yes i think they deserve at least a TMC given the high contingency of players from that region as pointed out by drimal04
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Re: Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

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yes i think they deserve at least a TMC given the high contingency of players from that region as pointed out by drimal04
but Drimal04 pointed out only three wta players from China... Jie Zheng(CHN/67), Shuai Peng (CHN/73) and Li Na (CHN/80)... and none of them are top 50.

I mean, they deserve the TMC, but not because of their tennis players....
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but Drimal04 pointed out only three wta players from China... Jie Zheng(CHN/67), Shuai Peng (CHN/73) and Li Na (CHN/80)... and none of them are top 50.

I mean, they deserve the TMC, but not because of their tennis players....
actually i was referring to your post re: sth america TMC
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Re: Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

nah, i will be very happy if Asia got a GS. But 6 GS (plus the Asian one and South American one) will be a quite big burden to both players and ATP. Players have to arrange a much more tight schedule, and also it's hard for ATP to rearrange the schedule with 6 GS, 9 TMS and many other tournaments.
Besides, it's not only the thing how many players of a continent are in the top. The continent should have the ability, enough money and big enough market to organize the GS. I am sure South America and Asia can reach this goal in the future, but not now, it still needs a long period of time.
Tennis is much more popular in Euro, so it deserves 2 GS, no doubt.
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Re: Asia and South America should have a Grand Slam too!

As someone already mentioned, the Grand Slams have tradition behind them, so you cannot just arbitrarily stage an event somewhere and call it a Grand Slam. Besides, 4 slams is more than enough with the hectic schedule.

That being said, I wouldn't mind to see more tournaments in Africa and S. America and Asia to make the sport more global- maybe even a few of the TMC's can be relocated for that purpose.
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actually i was referring to your post re: sth america TMC
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nah, i will be very happy if Asia got a GS. But 6 GS (plus the Asian one and South American one) will be a quite big burden to both players and ATP. Players have to arrange a much more tight schedule, and also it's hard for ATP to rearrange the schedule with 6 GS, 9 TMS and many other tournaments.
Besides, it's not only the thing how many players of a continent are in the top. The continent should have the ability, enough money and big enough market to organize the GS. I am sure South America and Asia can reach this goal in the future, but not now, it still needs a long period of time.
Tennis is much more popular in Euro, so it deserves 2 GS, no doubt.
I agree...

by the way, there should be at least a TMS in Asia and one in South America...
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