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Number 5 is true and you know that Roger led the way with that right? So if all we need is hearsay, how would you feel if I told you I know some former pros and trainers who think that Roger is doping because no one can do X Y and Z like he does and they figure he must be doping.


Somehow I think your enthusiasm for guilty until proven innocent would subside very quickly.
You forget that this isnt a court of law. Everyone is free to form their own opinion based on the facts out there. And my opinion is that doping is likely rife in tennis.

As for Federer, im sure it was his master plan all along to get the surfaces to play so slow that he would have to run for 5 hours behind the baseline instead of playing attacking tennis.
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You forget that this isnt a court of law. Everyone is free to form their own opinion based on the facts out there. And my opinion is that doping is likely rife in tennis.

As for Federer, im sure it was his master plan all along to get the surfaces to play so slow that he would have to run for 5 hours behind the baseline instead of playing attacking tennis.
This isn't a court of law but people are speaking as it if were and as if they had evidence.

Secondly Roger certainly made out well with tennis as it is and I have never heard anyone suggest he had anything but amazing stamina and conditioning, all things which are what doping in tennis would impact.

If you weren't so blind you would see that he is in the same boat with all successful tennis players today.
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This isn't a court of law but people are speaking as it if were and as if they had evidence. .
We're saying it's extremely likely, that's all. Cat ...milk...
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We could have taken growth hormones, but we never did it. We thought it was not worthy. Maybe we should have…. Maybe we would have never been caught up… Maybe my brother would be 17 centimenters (6.69 inches) taller and he would have been in the top 10… Everyone has to make choices. Do we really want to be in the worldwide top at all cost or are we content to be just a very good athlete, it’s all personal?

This is actually very interesting/funny as well.

It's really hard to imagine Olivier Rochus 17 centimeters taller.

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That's absurd his unfounded accusations on nadal and soderling. This guy is a nobody.
So?

A nobody has little to lose and is more likely to be frank.

Silent bans, I doubt it woman.

My first suspect for juicing would be Bjorn Borg. Resting heart rate of 34 BPMs. This guy had to be on something.

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This is actually very interesting/funny as well.

It's really hard to imagine Olivier Rochus 17 centimeters taller.
He'd have been a beast of a player if he was.
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This isn't a court of law but people are speaking as it if were and as if they had evidence.

Secondly Roger certainly made out well with tennis as it is and I have never heard anyone suggest he had anything but amazing stamina and conditioning, all things which are what doping in tennis would impact.

If you weren't so blind you would see that he is in the same boat with all successful tennis players today.
Please define both.
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3?
Yes. But I think (and it is the obvious thing to imagine, otherwise will be very stupid) that the player can't say "no" to a doping control if he meets the ATP workers; if the ATP workers don't find him (in the place and at the time that the player says) three times, then the player is punished.

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Re: Christophe Rochus wants doping to be made legal

Rochus wants doping to be made legal because on his best days his couldn't beat retired Kim and pregnant Henin. He's a joke tbh.
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Please define both.
Not really too arcane my friend.

Roger, like all of our modern greats, has great lungs, conditioning, speed which he keeps up over long matches and so on. Those who go on about how he is a "natural" (which all of these top guys are really in a sense) downplay this or perhaps even miss it entirely. He is rarely out of breath, rarely sweating profusely etc.

A suspicious and conspiracy minded individual could give all that a different reading than I would.
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Lol, Personally I think he obviously just made provocative statement here to have attention on this subject, no way he believes doping would be legalized. That said with current joke testing system there is even silent acceptance to doping, so in this light his comment makes all the sense . So I think (as many others) that they should rather be way stricter with testing, right now obviously rly huge percent of players use at least something to recover more quickly if nothing else, it might even be that competition is so tough that not using something is too much of an handicap currently so in the end it's quite easy to justify using doping to yourself too...
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That's absurd his unfounded accusations on nadal and soderling. This guy is a nobody.
Yet more than anyone on MTF in the tennis world, but MTF makes more outrageous statements that tards believe word for word.

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You do know that there's illegal substances that can lower chances of injuries, right?
What, did they find a way to fit yoga into needles?

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The Soderling mention actually makes a lot of sense. It´s amazing how these things fly below the radar, but if you look at it... Soderling came from a foot injury when playing Wimbledon. 3 weeks later he probably played one of the most powerfull perfomances i have ever seen on clay. The way he demolished Berdych and Ferrer was outstanding.

And then... he disappears.

Isn´t this suspicious? And i like Soderling, but this doesn´t add up.
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Re: Christophe Rochus wants doping to be made legal

For sure doping shouldn't be legal, at least in tennis. Doping could change the nature of tennis too much. Eventuially everybody would be a tirelessly grinding strong ballbasher.

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