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View Poll Results: Who will dominate tennis (the slams) in the next few years?
Djokovic and Murray 26 50.00%
Djokovic, Murray and Nadal 10 19.23%
The big 4 9 17.31%
There will be no dominance in the slams and we'll have several different winners. 7 13.46%
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Re: Is the dominance of tennis moving on to Djokovic and Murray?

Murray simply by himself will win the next 4 Grand Slams, thats plain and simple.
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Re: Is the dominance of tennis moving on to Djokovic and Murray?

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I didn't say he is a bad HC player, I just think a player at his level should win more outside of clay
Yes in 2011 he list a lot to nole but there are a lot if other HC events

It's been a long time since his last title outside of clay

I wonder what will be this year, will he flourish in April and may in the clay season and just like the last year that's it? Or will he come back and win a title?

I think 80% if rafas title are clay
I mean for sure Nadal 'should have' but look at how many opportunities he had, it does show he's an all court player. he's lost 3 Wimbledon finals, I mean if he won those obviously he would be one of the greatest grass court players ever, unfortunately he didn't. not as strongly but to some degree, Nadal was rather close to getting some big hard court event wins too to add to his resume

I think he'll either come back red hot or it will be practically the beginning of the end. if his and his teams claims are true about the knee then it would be expected that he'd come back into full form after some time of building confidence. we'll seee!!!

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Wait a second. Nadal is an 'all-court player'?? WTF? The man can't even step foot on a hardcourt without his knees dropping off.

Djokovic and Murray are by definition all-court players. It just happens to be that Federer is amazing on grass while Nadal is unbeatable on clay.
I agree.

Djokovic is more all court player than Nadal is.

Nadal got lucky with USO. and Nadal has never been able to defend hard court title.
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Alright your Murray trolling is getting to a highly annoying level, and espescially annoying considering I barely make negative comments to Nadal. So, lets make a little bet. If Murray wins just ONE clay tournament in his career, you have to declare love to him in your sig and keep it there permanently... If he doesn't win one, I will do whatever you request within reason.
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Nadal is amazing on hard courts when he's at his top level, but when he plays average, he's much more vulnerable than on the others surface. Djokovic is not better on grass, probably worse despite his Wimbledon title.

Federer on clay = Nadal on hard (the field is way tougher on hard courts than on clay) > Djokovic on grass > Murray on clay
Federer on clay > Nadal on hard.

Remember, without Nadal (aka the best claycourter ever), Federer would have won at least 5 RGs. And Federer has defended clay title.
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Obviously.
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but rafa didnt win a non clay title since USO 2010
that say alot about his 'all-court player' no?
Yes, he only reached the Wimbledon 11 final, US Open 11 final, AO 12 final, he was injured in Wimbledon 12 and didn't even play USO 12 since then.

So he reached 5/6 non clay slam finals or 5/7 if you count Wimbledon 12 as well since Wimbledon 2010, winning 2 of them. Only to lose to Djokovic in the other ones, the best hardcourter in the game. During those runs he beat hardcourt specialists like Murray, Federer, Djokovic, Berdych and many others.

Not an all court player? You must be joking

People need to show some respect. What are the numbers of Federer and Murray during that timespell? Where are Nole's and Andy's career grand slams? Now go back to your tardcaves people.

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Djokovic's movement on grass is atrocious. Slipping and sliding everywhere. Even on clay he has matches where he's struggling to stay upright.
Is it possible that this can not be sorted out with some kind of a special shoe?

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Re: Is the dominance of tennis moving on to Djokovic and Murray?

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No. Murray is pretty much a non-factor on clay, and that's despite a very weak clay field. Djokovic's movement on grass is atrocious. Slipping and sliding everywhere. Even on clay he has matches where he's struggling to stay upright.



Federer has 4 Hamburg titles.
right, and with that movement he managed to win Wimbledon. uh, oh, yeah, he was in some semis of W too. just atrocious . go, watch some tennis before you post

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This is Djoker's best chance for the calendar/career slam with Nadal questionable for RG, and the King a favourite at every other slam:

USO : WON
WIBLEDON: WON
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right, and with that movement he managed to win Wimbledon. uh, oh, yeah, he was in some semis of W too. just atrocious . go, watch some tennis before you post

Exactly. Winning wimbledon with "atrocious" movement no less. I think he needs a dictionary. Maybe he thinks Djoker should have to play the qualifiers at wimbledon next year. More great commentary at MTF !

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Yes, he only reached the Wimbledon 11 final, US Open 11 final, AO 12 final, he was injured in Wimbledon 12 and didn't even play USO 12 since then.

So he reached 5/6 non clay slam finals or 5/7 if you count Wimbledon 12 as well since Wimbledon 2010, winning 2 of them. Only to lose to Djokovic in the other ones, the best hardcourter in the game. During those runs he beat hardcourt specialists like Murray, Federer, Djokovic, Berdych and many others.

Not an all court player? You must be joking

People need to show some respect. What are the numbers of Federer and Murray during that timespell? Where are Nole's and Andy's career grand slams? Now go back to your tardcaves people.
Yes - he's at least as much of an "all-court" player as Murray is, if not more so. He's better on his least favourite surface than Murray is on his.

People seem to be forgetting just how hard Nadal could be to stop in majors after 2008...
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