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To me, the two points Roger Federer played against Andy Murray at the second set of the Wimbledon final last year were amongst the finest of the year and points that rank up there amongst the best ever played.
those are not points, those are pure poetry.
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No. I've already stated what my criteria is. I judge each shot based on the level of difficulty in executing the shot and the importance of the point.

The importance of the point is relative to the player, for example, Paire will most likely never play a Wimbledon final, so it's unfair to him to judge another shot as superior based on such. However, this is irrelevant here because I don't believe the 1st round of a 250 event, where he is playing a lowly ranked player is a momentous occasion for the man.

To me, the two points Roger Federer played against Andy Murray at the second set of the Wimbledon final last year were amongst the finest of the year and points that rank up there amongst the best ever played. I'm not one to say "this is the greatest shot of all time", it's an impossibility to do so, but Federer played those points perfectly out of nowhere and in the context of the stage he was at in his career and this match, they were truly magnificent. They are much more difficult to execute technically and the amount of pressure on these shots was immense. Of course, I can then use examples of lower ranked opponents which would just be as relevant, but Paire's shot does not fit either criteria.
I don't say your criteria is wrong, there's no such thing when we talk about personal preferences.

I respect your opinion, i like such shots as well.

According to ATP though (and the most popular criteria as from hundreds of polls about last year's best shot of the year) people prefer the kinds of shots of Dimitrov, which is quintessentially the same in what concerns conditions, moment, stage, etc. as this one.

I prefer those and i'm entitled to do so, just as probably half the tennis fans, or a third or whatever.

I don't see the problem.
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Looks forced, though still impressive he got it.
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It was great because it was unexpected but it's not that difficult to hit though
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Great shot!
Still, I hope and think that this won't be the best we get to see in the entire 2013.
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Amazing Candidate for the shot of the year
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Some people liked it as well it seems.

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I don't say your criteria is wrong, there's no such thing when we talk about personal preferences.

I respect your opinion, i like such shots as well.

According to ATP though (and the most popular criteria as from hundreds of polls about last year's best shot of the year) people prefer the kinds of shots of Dimitrov, which is quintessentially the same in what concerns conditions, moment, stage, etc. as this one.

I prefer those and i'm entitled to do so, just as probably half the tennis fans, or a third or whatever.

I don't see the problem.
Except the reasoning is completely ridiculous. Why should a shot that someone can play down at a club 50 times out of 100 superior to pinnacle points which should epitomise the sport?

You do realise that those people who prefer such shots are most likely teenagers who have been watching 5 tournaments (latter stages only) a year for about 3 years?

This is why your reasoning is being ridiculed.

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Dimitrov's shot was the kind that people most enjoyed in tennis' classic era. Don't take motorhead the wrong way, latso. The battle here is actually between two sides that see different things in tennis. One side likes dynamic tennis with fast play, reaching the unreachable balls and smart contrepied play. The other side likes seeing shots played from impossible angles, using unique techniques or spectacular shots.

Fact is though that there are some users who prefer both. I am one of them. I do like Fed's 2012 WTF shot more though.
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Except the reasoning is completely ridiculous. Why should a shot that someone can play down at a club 50 times out of 100 superior to pinnacle points which should epitomise the sport?

You do realise that those people who prefer such shots are most likely teenagers who have been watching 5 tournaments (latter stages only) a year for about 3 years?

This is why your reasoning is being ridiculed.

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Then ATP and half the World are ridiculous for choosing Dimitrov's trick shot ahead of Fed's great one.

You obviously deserve each other.

Poor Marat, ridiculed like this
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Dimitrov's shot was the kind that people most enjoyed in tennis' classic era. Don't take motorhead the wrong way, latso. The battle here is actually between two sides that see different things in tennis. One side likes dynamic tennis with fast play, reaching the unreachable balls and smart contrepied play. The other side likes seeing shots played from impossible angles, using unique techniques or spectacular shots.

Fact is though that there are some users who prefer both. I am one of them. I do like Fed's 2012 WTF shot more though.
This shot is neither.
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Dimitrov's shot was the kind that people most enjoyed in tennis' classic era. Don't take motorhead the wrong way, latso. The battle here is actually between two sides that see different things in tennis. One side likes dynamic tennis with fast play, reaching the unreachable balls and smart contrepied play. The other side likes seeing shots played from impossible angles, using unique techniques or spectacular shots.

Fact is though that there are some users who prefer both. I am one of them. I do like Fed's 2012 WTF shot more though.
I can't stop saying this.

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Great shot!

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Yep, hers was much better

but "Grigor Dimitrov, take a look at this"??? A commentator here hadn't heard of him until the day before his Bagdatis match at Brisbane...
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Great shot!
Good one, right
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Great shot but I've seen enough tennis to easily say that it wasn't THAT amazing...
This, when i saw this thread i was expecting something like Dimitrov last year so i ended up disapointed of course.

If this is the best shot of 2013, i might as well stop watching tennis right now because it would mean the standard is even lower this year.
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Paire has had a lot of practice with this shot, it was not always that good looking though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfnU9xx0qAQ
Love it.
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