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Dimitrov more likely to learn from more experienced players and hopefully develop his game

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Dimitrov for both. He's already a proven better clay courter.

He's won Slams as a junior and is among the few transferring well into ATP, so there is no reason for him not to win a few.

For Tomic - he's talented enough, but a hot head still, so it's early to say.
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Grigor because he's hot.

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Dimitrov is a wannabe Fed clone.

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Not "wannabe". He just is, because - Federer's style is the ultimate best tennis style, which is the textbook of modern tennis (with one or two hands BH).

So anyone who manages to play closest in style has achieved an important milestone.

It's simple. If you have anything different in your movement - it's a parasite to be worked on and changed in the right direction.

It has the best bio-mechanics, which makes it playable by players with no excessive muscle structure and is gentle to the body, which allows longevity.

Once you achieve that it's all head and hand from that point.

I wouldn't teach neither Santoro's style, nor Rafa's to my kid, neither i would expect him to have the rubber spine of Djokovic.

Federer has written tennis style all over and that's why one could consider either everyone being Federer wannabees, or none of them, just players seeking perfection.
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Hopefully both will step up. The sport needs it. As to who will win more, it really is difficult to say for me right now. Both haven´t reached that point yet that you can say they have a more or less complete game. I´m going out on a limb here and say Tomic, I have the feeling that his game is a bit more suited to the current tour.
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Hopefully both will step up. The sport needs it. As to who will win more, it really is difficult to say for me right now. Both haven´t reached that point yet that you can say they have a more or less complete game. I´m going out on a limb here and say Tomic, I have the feeling that his game is a bit more suited to the current tour.
I think 3 days ago you wouldn't say that.

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Not "wannabe". He just is, because - Federer's style is the ultimate best tennis style, which is the textbook of modern tennis (with one or two hands BH).

So anyone who manages to play closest in style has achieved an important milestone.

It's simple. If you have anything different in your movement - it's a parasite to be worked on and changed in the right direction.

It has the best bio-mechanics, which makes it playable by players with no excessive muscle structure and is gentle to the body, which allows longevity.

Once you achieve that it's all head and hand from that point.

I wouldn't teach neither Santoro's style, nor Rafa's to my kid, neither i would expect him to have the rubber spine of Djokovic.

Federer has written tennis style all over and that's why one could consider either everyone being Federer wannabees, or none of them, just players seeking perfection.
Nonsense. Every person's balance and movement pattern is different, and therefore you should never try to copy someone else's movements as it will not work. You could look to Fed's footwork etc for tips, sure, but ultimately you have to play to your own body's strengths. That is one of the reasons why Grigor hasn't achieved anything yet, his mind is too locked in trying to imitate Federer instead of finding a game that comes naturally to him.

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I think 3 days ago you wouldn't say that.

But it's an opinion
Well, I have not seen Dimitrov yet this year, so I can not comment on him. As far as Tomic is concerned, he always had the tactical ability, but from what I´ve seen the last couple of days, he has added some weight to his shots and his footwork seems to be somewhat better as well. Still, as I said, I hop both do step up.
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better on clay ? rather Dimitrov

will win more slams ? rather Tomic

imho

I like them both and think they both bring something original to the game (Raonic is not my cup of tea) then I hope they will succeed.

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I don't think he is actually imitating Roger per se. Nobody can 'imitate' Roger. Fed is a tennis genius, no question about it. well, Gasquet was a new Fed back in 2005/06 (I wish, because I like Richie so much) ... he got nowhere
Dimitrov did indeed imitate Federer, it's obvious ... and imo he did it very well.
But now, and for a few years, I think he has gone beyond that then I don't think it hampers him.
Gasquet never imitated Fed and his common points with Fed were very small, in his case "baby-Fed" just meant "talented young guy", Dimitrov is much more of a "Fed imitation".

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better on clay ? rather Dimitrov

will win more slams ? rather Tomic

imho

I like them both and think they both bring something original to the game (Raonic is not my cup of tea) then I hope they will succeed.



Dimitrov did indeed imitate Federer, it's obvious ... and imo he did it very well.
But now, and for a few years, I think he has gone beyond that then I don't think it hampers him.
Gasquet never imitated Fed and his common points with Fed were very small, in his case "baby-Fed" just meant "talented young guy", Dimitrov is much more of a "Fed imitation".
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Do you think Dimitrov is 'imitating' Fed on purpose or playing his 'own' game that is similar/perceived as Fed's game?
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Re: Dimitrov or Tomic?

Dimitrov grew up watching and admiring Fed. Therefore, it's no coincidence he plays like him. The problem he had was that he was not good enough or maybe did not have all the qualities Roger does (body structure, physique, mentality, whatever you want to call it) to play the same style. I think he's always said he wants to be his own man, even at the beginning. It's just that their style of play is similar and he may have erred on the side of imitating Fed a bit.

Conversely, Raonic grew up watching and admiring Sampras and his serve is brilliant. In his case, he could in fact emulate what his idol was doing on court. Dimitrov's could not.


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Probs Dimitrov....

Just wondering though, every one says neither will win a Slam, then who will? Will Fed still be winning slams age 50 or something?

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