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Well, first meeting Nadal was 16, so not exactly surprising. The next two wins Nadal was 18, and the latter one Nadal actually bagelled him first set before falling apart.

Two months later they met in the Monte Carlo qfs: Nadal 6/3 6/0.


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Safin would only dream of a Slam final in the 2003-2005 era if Nadal, Djoker & Murray were ages 22-25. .
Yeah. He beat Federer and Sampras to win slams, but he wouldn't beat Murray, lol. He also routined Novak at Wimbledon in 2008 and he would have beat Nadal at any of the HC slams easily.

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Even by Heya's usual high standards, that was one of the most idiotic statements yet.
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Yeah. He beat Federer and Sampras to win slams, but he wouldn't beat Murray, lol. He also routined Novak at Wimbledon in 2008 and he would have beat Nadal at any of the HC slams easily.
H2H Nadal - Safin 2-0, both on hardcourts: 6-3 6-1 and 7-6 6-0.... yeah, he would've eaaasily beaten Rafa. Just so you know, there's no 'easily' beating Rafa at slams.

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H2H Nadal - Safin 2-0, both on hardcourts: 6-3 6-1 and 7-6 6-0.... yeah, he would've eaaasily beaten Rafa. Just so you know, there's no 'easily' beating Rafa at slams.
when he was way past it?

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Yeah, Safin was way past it in those meetings. His last few years on tour were rather meh, his knee injury in 2005 pretty much ended him as a really competitive force.

Would have been interesting to see him play Nadal with both in their prime years. Nadal would lead the H2H if they faced often by sheer virtue of his consistency, but Safin would be maybe the toughest matchup for him when playing well I think - he has arguably the best two hander of all-time and would love to unleash on Rafa's top spin balls.
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Just so you know, there's no 'easily' beating Rafa at slams.
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when he was way past it?
07 and 09, not as if Nadal was playing at a high level during that time. It's all we have to judge this match up on, and Nadal is just way too mentally strong for Safin and would frustrate the Russian by getting everything back, especially in a best of 5 match.

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Yeah, Safin was way past it in those meetings. His last few years on tour were rather meh, his knee injury in 2005 pretty much ended him as a really competitive force.

Would have been interesting to see him play Nadal with both in their prime years. Nadal would lead the H2H if they faced often by sheer virtue of his consistency, but Safin would be maybe the toughest matchup for him when playing well I think - he has arguably the best two hander of all-time and would love to unleash on Rafa's top spin balls.
Safin is overrated........comparing a GOAT level player like Nadal to a 2 time Slam winner is a joke
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Safin is overrated........comparing a GOAT level player like Nadal to a 2 time Slam winner is a joke
Tsonga, Del Potro, Gonzalez... have one Slam combined yet all beat Nadal in straights at a hardcourt Slam. Davydenko has 0 Slams and has a positive H2H vs Nadal.

Bottom line: no one is debating who is the greater player, there's no discussion there: it's Nadal by miles. The only discussion is whether Safin could beat Nadal at the hardcourt Slams - he doesn't need to own 10+ Slams, or even one for that matter, for that to be a legitimate question.
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Safin is overrated........comparing a GOAT level player like Nadal to a 2 time Slam winner is a joke
This. Safin is so overhyped.



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07 and 09, not as if Nadal was playing at a high level during that time. It's all we have to judge this match up on, and Nadal is just way too mentally strong for Safin and would frustrate the Russian by getting everything back, especially in a best of 5 match.
Nadal had just won RG for a third time and was a point away from probably defeating Federer at Wimbledon, so suggesting 07 was a low level Nadal is a little silly if you ask me.

Where Safin has a great weapon against Nadal is the two hander crosscourt. We've seen Djokovic, Murray and Nalbandian hurt him with that shot, either the ball shanking off his racket or he's too far out of position to get to the next ball.

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Safin is overrated........comparing a GOAT level player like Nadal to a 2 time Slam winner is a joke
Since he was (Safin) the only one to beat Peakerer in a HC slam I would say he would probably beat Nadal at a HC slam. No one compared them and Safin is not over-rated at all.

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The New Balls generation are disrespected a lot on here by people who are tards of current top players or by people who simply never watched them play at their peaks.

They still lead the current generation 23-18 in slam titles. Have a bit more respect people.

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Since he was (Safin) the only one to beat Peakerer in a HC slam I would say he would probably beat Nadal at a HC slam. No one compared them and Safin is not over-rated at all.
Fed was not playing that good even...........Jesus stop with the hype..........Safin was good but that's all

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The New Balls generation are disrespected a lot on here by people who are tards of current top players or by people who simply never watched them play at their peaks.

They still lead the current generation 23-18 in slam titles. Have a bit more respect people.

LOL..............17 of those Slams were won by 1 player that spent more time playing with this new generation......Djokovic>everyone except Fed from that gen,Nadal also and hell even Murray is better than 70% of those guys
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