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Re: Worrying times: lots of challengers missing in 2013

Someone above alluded to it, but definite cycle to this (presumably based on the economic cycle....
Year / Number of Challengers

98 115
99 116
00 121
01 135
02 122
03 134
04 147
05 150
06 161
07 175
08 177
09 162
10 154
11 150
12 148


Futures don't seem to have suffered though, last year was the peak (582 events, up 17% since 07)
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Re: Worrying times: lots of challengers missing in 2013

better less tournaments but with higher prize money

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my limits are the same on challengers and futures.

if yours are then you've just proved you can easily stake enough to make a small futures fix worthwhile without even having to wait for it to go in play (where limits are 6x higher)
You know, i might be wrong about the max stakes on Futures (despite i really need to see if Futures and CH are with the same limits for betting).

But OK, i'm wrong about this, among quite a bunch of things i've said. Does it feel re-comforting that chasing me around to correct my 0.1% of posts? You're better than that...i thought.

Otherwise, tell me how do you fix a match in Futures with 500E max stake. Please.

Opening multiple accounts is not an option. In the second one max stake bet is placed and the bookie is on guard. The moment it's more than once - the bet is blocked and accounts are blocked under suspicion until they decide what to do and there is nothing one can do, so that's not an option.

The only way for a fix at Futures level to happen is if a player does it. Also he needs to be the favorite in order to bet against himself and get solid odds.

That would make him 1000 Eur. And risk his whole career, or if he does it with a friend he'll need to share, so 500 Eur.

These guys are raised to be athletes and dream to be high level professionals, and make millions.

Who would risk everything and do such a stupid thing for peanuts?

The betting mafia could fix it and do what? Make 5 accounts in 5 bookies and make 12K Euros? They won't bother even taking the plane to the destination for such money. They can make 10 times more by bribing a third division goal keeper somewhere..

Anyways, all i'm writing is 100% wrong and everything else is the holly truth. Let it be.
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Yes and you were already trolling like a boss. Nothing has changed from what I read.
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Anyways, all i'm writing is 100% wrong and everything else is the holly truth. Let it be.
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and I pulled you up where you're wrong because of the ignorant way you treated the opinions of others with complete disdain when they have more knowledge on the subject than you do.
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BS

Move on

wonder why Savic didn't just do his scams on Futures level. Crazy huh.. http://shanktennis.com/2012/10/14/da...red/#more-1163
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and I pulled you up where you're wrong because of the ignorant way you treated the opinions of others with complete disdain when they have more knowledge on the subject than you do.

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Move on

wonder why Savic didn't just do his scams on Futures level. Crazy huh.. http://shanktennis.com/2012/10/14/da...red/#more-1163
He most likely did. He then moved on to bigger cash and got caught.
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There where way too many to begin with ! At least now this should cut down on weak fields !

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No Bath Challenger ?

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reading the betting part in the last pages one might get the idea bet365 is constantly losing money on futures, I've my doubts about it.

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There where way too many to begin with ! At least now this should cut down on weak fields !
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