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I'm sorry, but when there is a LIVE MAJOR event going on, WHY does ESPN show programs such as "NFL MONDAY QUARTERBACK" and "NFL FILMS PRESENTS", which can be aired anytime. WE WANT OUR LIVE TENNIS!!!

This is absolutely crazy!!!


The USTA and every tennis playing American wants tennis to be a bigger part of the sporting scene in America, but without the LIVE coverage, how can this be done?

The Tennis channel has to make themselves available to all homes with cable FOR FREE (just like the F'ing GOLF channel). I don’t know if that’s a network decision, a cable decision, or what, but without coverage, the game will not grow popularity among the youth (future)

Obviously a great solution would be to have tennis channel cover all tennis around the world, which they do an EXCELLENT job doing the weeks they have the rights, but not everyone has tennis channel. In fact, i'd be VERY surprised if 5% of households in America even have the tennis channel.

The tennis channel has done an AMAZING job in its first couple of years, and in order for the sport to grow in the US, the coverage must be made more readily available. Once, and if, and that 'if' is a maybe, this happens, maybe then we can get tennis on the TENNIS CHANNEL and away from ESPN and let them play re-runs of whatever football programs, hunting shows, or billiards, as they see fit.

(not to mention that the tennis channel commentators are FAR SUPERIOR to ESPN, esp Mal Washington who insults everything and everyone, most likely because he’s bitter he didn’t have such a great career).

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I'm sorry, but when there is a LIVE MAJOR event going on, WHY does ESPN show programs such as "NFL MONDAY QUARTERBACK" and "NFL FILMS PRESENTS", which can be aired anytime. WE WANT OUR LIVE TENNIS!!!

This is absolutely crazy!!!


The USTA and every tennis playing American wants tennis to be a bigger part of the sporting scene in America, but without the LIVE coverage, how can this be done?

The Tennis channel has to make themselves available to all homes with cable FOR FREE (just like the F'ing GOLF channel). I don’t know if that’s a network decision, a cable decision, or what, but without coverage, the game will not grow popularity among the youth (future)

Obviously a great solution would be to have tennis channel cover all tennis around the world, which they do an EXCELLENT job doing the weeks they have the rights, but not everyone has tennis channel. In fact, i'd be VERY surprised if 5% of households in America even have the tennis channel.

The tennis channel has done an AMAZING job in its first couple of years, and in order for the sport to grow in the US, the coverage must be made more readily available. Once, and if, and that 'if' is a maybe, this happens, maybe then we can get tennis on the TENNIS CHANNEL and away from ESPN and let them play re-runs of whatever football programs, hunting shows, or billiards, as they see fit.

(not to mention that the tennis channel commentators are FAR SUPERIOR to ESPN, esp Mal Washington who insults everything and everyone, most likely because he’s bitter he didn’t have such a great career).

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The problem is that the Tennis Channel is not available on regular cable or dish sateillite (sp?), I think it's only availible on certain types of cable providers that isn't available to a lot of people.

The fact that we're even getting tennis coverage is a huge step forward for ESPN, I remember when we used to get next to nothing at crap times.
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Re: ESPN should give up all tennis coverage

I get the tennis channel and they are only covering the doubles. ESPN has the rights to all the good stuff...like singles matches of the majors.

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you should have Eurosport in the States.


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I get the tennis channel and they are only covering the doubles. ESPN has the rights to all the good stuff...like singles matches of the majors.
Yes, I know. This is waht I'm saying they should give up. ESPN does not even play the matches live. Do they really get more $ for the advertising slots during sportfishing?

Whats the deal here?
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you should have Eurosport in the States.

I wish!

They have Moya-Hewitt on at midnight, which means that it's being played live at 11:00 at night. Which it's not.

And midnight is after curfew in the dorms, so I can't even SEE Moya.
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I wish!

They have Moya-Hewitt on at midnight, which means that it's being played live at 11:00 at night. Which it's not.

And midnight is after curfew in the dorms, so I can't even SEE Moya.

wait it's hewitt / moya tonight? i thought they were showing Federer's match tonight...?? how do you know its hewitt/moya??

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wait it's hewitt / moya tonight? i thought they were showing Federer's match tonight...?? how do you know its hewitt/moya??
It's announced in ESPN web site today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvl...41116&sport=TN
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Yes, I know. This is waht I'm saying they should give up. ESPN does not even play the matches live. Do they really get more $ for the advertising slots during sportfishing?

Whats the deal here?
Well you guys want this to change become Andy fans and root for him to be number 1. You will see alot more tennis at that point on ESPN. As long as the number 1 is either a robot or non-american you can expect ESPN or any other American broadcaster not to care about the smaller events. It's really bad right now because the number 1 is super dominant, he's a robot, and he's not American. Amount of tennis coverage by everyone....*falling**falling*..

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Well you guys want this to change become Andy fans and root for him to be number 1. You will see alot more tennis at that point on ESPN. As long as the number 1 is either a robot or non-american you can expect ESPN or any other American broadcaster not to care about the smaller events. It's really bad right now because the number 1 is super dominant, he's a robot, and he's not American. Amount of tennis coverage by everyone....*falling**falling*..
Problem is that most Americans ONLY know Roddick. And if he's not playing, no one watches. So if the only player that is marketed in America is Roddick, tennis is in woeful shape in this fine country.

If ESPN would show commercials with Federer, like they did with Roddick and all the others, commercials with Safin, Moya, Gaudio, Henman, Coria and all the other talented guys, they'd make a lot more money off tennis. Those guys aren't all morons that don't deserve a TV spot , some of those guys are massively entertaining (Can we say Marat?) or very good-looking (Moya, Safin, that's personal taste...).

It's kinda of a chicken-and-egg thing: If ESPN shows more tennis, more people become familiar with players. But ESPN won't make tennis more accessible until more people start watching.

The solution should be to advertise tennis in a spectrum outside of Roddick and Agassi, who are NOT the center of the sport's universe.

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Re: ESPN should give up all tennis coverage

Nice rant tennisphan, but you should do a little bit more research or at least read the threads here that have discussed this already. (and the interview with Steve Bellamy at tennis-x.com). Everything you complained about is a matter of money. It takes money to start a new cable channel, it takes money to buy a slot on each cable system's channel lineup, it takes money to buy the rights to broadcast tournaments, to fly crews to each tournament, etc, etc, etc. I fully support the Tennis Channel and what they are trying to do and I call my cable company every once in a while to request it. Hopefully, Comcast will add it before the 2005 season begins. I would love for it to be part of the basic lineup, but I don't think there is space.

ESPN has been screwing up tennis coverage for ages and they have repeatedly said that they are not considering the serious tennis fan in their decisions, they are going after the 'casual' tennis fan and trying to convert them. Feel free to send them a feedback form every day of this week about their coverage of the Masters Cup. None of the powers that be believe there is significant interest in tennis, it just doesn't get the ratings they want unless Andre or a Williams sister is playing.

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I'd like Eurosport

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Actually Agassi is the most marketed tennis player in tennis history (mens history) and besides Mac has been one of the few to transend the sport. Andy Roddick is very similar with the endorsements and commerical choices he has made. Tennis will become more popular in the states when sport becomes more interesting...period. This means rivalries and interesting personalities. When people start tuning in to see characters for entertainment, they will start to take notice of the play. I have to admit I started watching only womens tennis because I found them very attractive. As I watched more and more I respected the mens game and found it much more interesting and fun to watch.

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Cox in my region will drop ESPNews, ESPN Classic and Fox Sports World from the Variety tier and put them in a new tier called Sports & Info. I just hope Cox may add TTC into the tier later to attract more suscribtion, then I will subsribe for it.
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It's announced in ESPN web site today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tvl...41116&sport=TN
That's for Tuesday, Nov. 16.
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