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Re: London WTF 2012 RR: Federer def. Ferrer 64 76(5)

Very poor quality match. IMO, both players looked mentally drained which was apparent in their easy errors and poor shot selection at times. This is understandable given their age and extensive amount of play this year. Hopefully they will have some reserves left to finish the tournament strong.
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I have seen a lot of numbers like 17 > 11 > 5 > 1 or 18 > 16 but I had never seen 28 > 6.
Fedal will always be >>>> Nolandy

No way those two will ever reach 20 Slams let alone 28!
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NID, pre match bribes ensuring that greederer got the win

disgusting stuff, needs to retire ASAP
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It's all a matter of whether they play 6 more matches or not, it's not like Ferrer is ever going to beat him

This matchup is a good retirement barometer for Federer; once he loses to Ferrer, it's time to call it a day :lol:
Sure it's not the other way around? Roddick retired after getting a win this year...
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Re: London WTF 2012 RR: Federer def. Ferrer 64 76(5)

That was terrible from federer, but he did what I wanted him to do: Beat Ferrer in 2 sets. This gives Delpo an extra set margin of error to classify
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Re: London WTF 2012 RR: Federer def. Ferrer 64 76(5)

tough match as expected, David played solid!
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Expected - close match and Roger´s win, but the fact is that Roger could have lost and Ferrer should have won that 1st set, Roger´s FS% was horrible and Ferrer had like million BP´s. I said it before Roger is not looking in good form. Age and tirednes from long season are catching up with him - i don´t like his chances in 3 sets - 3 hour battle vs Andy or Nole in SF and than if he somehow makes F he will be eaten alive. Ferrer with bigger confidence vs Roger could have taken this match, but he is really playing well and i expect him to beat Janko and be in SF.
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Re: London WTF 2012 RR: Federer def. Ferrer 64 76(5)

Bear Grylls was watching the match (really, no joke). His thoughts during the match:



But really, I like Ferrer but this matchup is so predictable. Federer just takes the time away from Ferrer. Still hope that Ferrer qualifies just to shut up some annoying posters around here .

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Annabel Croft interviewed him. He described Roger's playing style as not very flash but very consistent.

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Annabel Croft interviewed him. He described Roger's playing style as not very flash but very consistent.
These days it's the complete opposite with Roger.

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Re: London WTF 2012 RR: Federer def. Ferrer 64 76(5)

Can't believe I picked this shitfest for my first time seeing Fed live. And he says he played great during the interview. Just a tad delusional today.

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Re: London WTF 2012 RR: Federer def. Ferrer 64 76(5)

what an utter embarassment. ferrer lost this before the match even started, pathetic to watch.

most top players would have defeated frauderer today, but not ferrer... even with 10 BP's, 40% first serve federer, leading in the TB and he still loses in 2

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Re: London WTF 2012 RR: Federer def. Ferrer 64 76(5)

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Really? This was by far the worst quality match of the World Tour Finals. At least in Federer vs Tipsarevic, Federer played well.
I beg to differ, I absolutely don't think it was the worst match so far. Tsonga played horribly, far worse than Federer today.
Ferrer played very well today, but the problem is the same that he has with Nadal : his only option is to find a flaw in the opponent's game that he can work on, and with Nadal and Fed, he just cannot find it. So even when he plays really well, it's still not enough, especially with Fed.
People are just saying this was a bad match because Federer was far from his usual level, and because the result was predictable. But it was really not that bad.

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5 double faults from Ferrer and -8, that is pretty bad for him. Stop thinking its Fed on other side of the court.
I'm going to repeat what I said in the live commentary thread about Ferrer's DFs:

When Ferrer DFs, it's not that he's playing badly, usually. It means he's getting serious. Unlike taller players, he has no choice, if he wants to score aces or at least a very good serve, he has to force a lot.
That's why, unlike most players, a lot of DFs for him is not particularly a bad sign, in fact you'll often see him DF at moments when he's playing very well.

So there's nothing extraordinary in his having 5 DFs. With one of the giant players who can serve huge without much effort, this can be an indication of a poor level / choking / mental breakdown. Not so with Ferrer, it only shows that he tried to force his serve even more than usual, for the very simple reason that he could not find the key to Roger's game. His max is still not enough, therefore he tries to force too much, and he makes mistakes.

If you follow him closely you'll notice that Ferrer on hard courts often has a lot of DFs. Occasionally, they can be a sign of tiredness or lack of focus, but most of the time, they happen at moments when he's playing at his best (several of his DFs today happened in that context). I think it's a very conscious strategy, it's risky, but if the rest of his game follows, it pays off in the end.
After all, losing a point on a DF while trying to score an ace or an easy point on your serve is not any worse than serving poorly and still losing the point.
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