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Re: WWW London 2012 RR: Nole or Berdych?

If Murray plays first and loses or wins in 3, then tanking would be a viable option for Nole to get rid of Murray. If Murray wins in 2, no can do though.
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Hopefully Nole tanks ill advisedly, and Murray double bagels Tsonga and wins the group.

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Stupid speculations, Nole won´t tank this, he will win this, his only loss to Berdych came on his worst surface in time when he was Nole the WTA server DF´g left-right and confidence was in hell. Berdych even playing his absolute best would probably somehow lost this in 3, but he is not playing his best, he is playing good tennis, but not his best and Nole at standard level will win this in 2 sets. IF Nole will play at high level than it will be one-sided match.
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Novak better not tank anything (unless a berth in the SF is 100% guaranteed)
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On the other hand, what if Tsonga beats Murray, and Nole beats Berdych? Then we'd have three players on 1 win each.
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A rare delicacy this Czech turkey. Nole will feast on it (in 2), no doubt.


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Berdych has no chance.

Novak in 2 unless he tanks.
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if Novak wins 1 set he wins the group
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Tankovic to lose in 3, probably 6-1 6-7 3-6.
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if Novak wins 1 set he wins the group
If Nole win 1 set he qualifies for the semis, but doesn't wrap up 1st. If he were to lose in 3 then he'd need a Murray win to take 1st, pretty likely but he won't want to tank after getting a set and risk Murray losing if Murray played the night match an then he doesn't get 1st

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Who plays first?? Murray or Djokovic?? That's important of course in case he wants to tank.

But what if he wins the first set and tanks the other 2?? It's enough to qualify and let Murray out and put Berdych in the semi against Federer?? Asuming Tsonga can take a set from Murray that is.

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On the other hand, what if Tsonga beats Murray, and Nole beats Berdych? Then we'd have three players on 1 win each.
Again, depends on the percentage of sets win.
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Who plays first?? Murray or Djokovic?? That's important of course in case he wants to tank.

But what if he wins the first set and tanks the other 2?? It's enough to qualify and let Murray out and put Berdych in the semi against Federer?? Asuming Tsonga can take a set from Murray that is.
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anything that ruins frauderer's fake smile and patronizing attitude is a good thing

djokovic and murray to collude and get their revenge for this group of death
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Re: WWW London 2012 RR: Nole or Berdych?

It's not that hard people...

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	     Djokovic in 2  Djokovic in 3  Berdych in 2	 Berdych in 3

Murray in 2  1. Djokovic    1. Djokovic    1. Murray     1. Djokovic
             2. Murray      2. Murray      2. Berdych    2. Murray
             
Murray in 3  1. Djokovic    1. Djokovic    1. Berdych    1. Djokovic
             2. Murray      2. Murray      2. Djokovic   2. Murray

Tsonga in 2  1. Djokovic    1. Djokovic    1. Berdych    1. Berdych
             2. Tsonga      2. Berdych     2. Djokovic   2. Djokovic

Tsonga in 3  1. Djokovic    1. Djokovic    1. Berdych    1. Berdych
             2. Murray      2. Murray      2. Djokovic   2. Djokovic
Murray has the advantage because he beat Berdych and if sets are tied, he would qualify based on H2H. Djokovic tanking in 2 would be stupid, because if Murray won in 2 sets he would be out. Losing in 3 could cost him the 1st spot. We also already know for certain that it won't come down to games W/L.

Djokovic and Berdych will play first. So fixing is almost impossible.

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