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Re: WTF semi-final qualification speculation thread

2012 SEMI-FINAL QUALIFYING SCENARIOS

Singles Group A qualification scenarios after the completion of the 2nd round of the event's group stage:

1) Regardless of score, if N. DJOKOVIC defeats T. BERDYCH and A. MURRAY defeats J. TSONGA, then N. DJOKOVIC wins the group and A. MURRAY qualifies 2nd.
2) Regardless of score, if T. BERDYCH defeats N. DJOKOVIC and J. TSONGA defeats A. MURRAY, then T. BERDYCH wins the group and N. DJOKOVIC qualifies 2nd.

3) If N. DJOKOVIC defeats T. BERDYCH in 2 sets and J. TSONGA defeats A. MURRAY in 2 sets, then N. DJOKOVIC wins the group and J. TSONGA qualifies 2nd.
4) If N. DJOKOVIC defeats T. BERDYCH in 2 sets and J. TSONGA defeats A. MURRAY in 3 sets, then N. DJOKOVIC wins the group and A. MURRAY qualifies 2nd.
5) If N. DJOKOVIC defeats T. BERDYCH in 3 sets and J. TSONGA defeats A. MURRAY in 2 sets, then N. DJOKOVIC wins the group and T. BERDYCH qualifies 2nd.
6) If N. DJOKOVIC defeats T. BERDYCH in 3 sets and J. TSONGA defeats A. MURRAY in 3 sets, then N. DJOKOVIC wins the group and A. MURRAY qualifies 2nd.
7) If T. BERDYCH defeats N. DJOKOVIC in 2 sets and A. MURRAY defeats J. TSONGA in 2 sets, then A. MURRAY wins the group and T. BERDYCH qualifies 2nd.
8) If T. BERDYCH defeats N. DJOKOVIC in 2 sets and A. MURRAY defeats J. TSONGA in 3 sets, then T. BERDYCH wins the group and N. DJOKOVIC qualifies 2nd.
9) If T. BERDYCH defeats N. DJOKOVIC in 3 sets and A. MURRAY defeats J. TSONGA in 2 sets, then N. DJOKOVIC wins the group and A. MURRAY qualifies 2nd.
10) If T. BERDYCH defeats N. DJOKOVIC in 3 sets and A. MURRAY defeats J. TSONGA in 3 sets, then N. DJOKOVIC wins the group and A. MURRAY qualifies 2nd.



Singles Group B qualification scenarios after the completion of the 1st round of the event's group stage:

R. FEDERER qualifies on Thursday if:
- R. FEDERER defeats D. FERRER in 2 sets.
- R. FEDERER defeats D. FERRER and J. TIPSAREVIC defeats J. DEL POTRO.

D. FERRER qualifies on Thursday if:
- D. FERRER defeats R. FEDERER and J. DEL POTRO defeats J. TIPSAREVIC.




Taken from: "http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings...fications.aspx"

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This might be easier to see.




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Re: WTF semi-final qualification speculation thread

You can see the original of this table here:

Group A - http://letsecondserve.blogspot.co.il...ification.html
Group B - http://letsecondserve.blogspot.co.il...ification.html (New!)

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You can see the original of this table here:

Group A - http://letsecondserve.blogspot.co.il...ification.html
Group B - http://letsecondserve.blogspot.co.il...ification.html (New!)
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Yeah the table makes it easier to see instead of paragraphs of scenarios.

One thing I would suggest though is to order te rows and columns of the tables differently, order them, Murray 2-0, Murray 2-1, Tsonga 2-1, Tsonga 2-0, and the same type of thing for Nole/Berdych, IMO it makes it easier to we the gradual change of what happens from result to result. For example in that case the first 3 columns would have Nole advancing so he only needs 1 set, instead of 2 columns with him advancing then the Berdych 2-0 column where he wouldn't wrap a spot up yet, and then another column where e advances, its not as easy to see things like that with the current ordering

Or maybe its just me but that's how I'd order that table

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So now that Djokovic has won in 2, 3 of the 4 scenarios will get Murray through. Only a straight sets loss to Tsonga would be enough for Jo to get the second semi-final spot.

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Only Del Potro can take him out before the semis, and he won't. Nadal is winning the AO, bet your house on it.
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Tsonga must be surprised that he's still in the mix for a SF spot, that is if anyone has even told him. Beating Murray won't be an easy task, but if he's going to do it, his best chance is a straight sets win. That will only happen if Murray doesn't get his ground game going, if it goes to three sets Murray will grind his way through to a win...
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Re: WTF semi-final qualification speculation thread

Murray wins a set, he's qualified. Djokovic qualifies first and Murray qualifies second.

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Only Del Potro can take him out before the semis, and he won't. Nadal is winning the AO, bet your house on it.
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I read a British poster (Roamed) say that Murray would have the afternoon semifinal, can anyone confirm ?

it's better to have more rest before the final next day, esp. as I think the second semi will start quite late.

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