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Re: Paris F: (4) Ferrer def (Q) Janowicz 6-4 6-3

Very deserved title, he has been too good not to win one of these.

Great year from Dave. The REAL no.5, the official no.5, the superior player compared to the likes of Berdych, Potro,Tsomga etc.

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Very happy for David. He completely deserves a big title. As for Janowicz - great to see him have a great tournament. I hope he builds on this.

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Happy for hard working Ferrer, a true professional unlike some other players.

Watched most of the match and was not too impressed by this Janowicz. A serve&dropshot-bot, with average groundstrokes.
Some people here are mentioning high quality tennis in the 1st set. If Janowicz dumping backhands into the net, forehands all over the place is high quality for you, then you have very low standards.
Alltogether he played about 30 dropshots and won about quarter of those points and made 42UE in two sets. The best he did today was hitting a few 230km/h serves in the beggining of the match (the fastest was 242km/h) and hit some nice forehands winners from time to time.

I know he was tired today, I'm just talking about today's performance which wasn't great like some people say.
Ferrer was his usual self.
Miss Mateya, you are correct that Janowicz didn't play so well today, but too bad you chose this day to make an "not impressed" analysis about his low quality game. I guess you missed getting a more overall impression in his other outstanding matches leading up to the final dumping 2 top 10's (inc. US Open winner Murray) and 2 other top 20 players. Here you watched Janowicz in the final on his 8th match in 9 days. Of course he was tired.

To call him a serve&dropshot bot is laughable coming from someone like you who plays the game. Watch his other matches from this past week. He moves very well for his size, better than any of the other tall players in my opinion, and has a solid backhand defending and a seriously powerful forehand. That's why his drop shot is so effective. When his power forehand his working and forcing the opponent backwards behind the baseline, the disguised drop shot becomes an excellent combination, resulting in a winner or forced error. His percentages before today were much, much better. Even when he is not making them, they still force the other player to run like a chicken and tire themselves to exhaustion, ala Tipsarevic.

One would be hard pressed to find many other players that were able to win a Masters from qualifying since they were instituted back in the 90's. I find this a fine achievement.

Why must people be so negative here?

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Miss Mateya, you are correct that Janowicz didn't play so well today, but too bad you chose this day to make an "not impressed" analysis about his low quality game. I guess you missed getting a more overall impression in his other outstanding matches leading up to the final dumping 2 top 10's (inc. US Open winner Murray) and 2 other top 20 players. Here you watched Janowicz in the final on his 8th match in 9 days. Of course he was tired.

To call him a serve&dropshot bot is laughable coming from someone like you who plays the game. Watch his other matches from this past week. He moves very well for his size, better than any of the other tall players in my opinion, and has a solid backhand defending and a seriously powerful forehand. That's why his drop shot is so effective. When his power forehand his working and forcing the opponent backwards behind the baseline, the disguised drop shot becomes an excellent combination, resulting in a winner or forced error. His percentages before today were much, much better. Even when he is not making them, they still force the other player to run like a chicken and tire themselves to exhaustion, ala Tipsarevic.

One would be hard pressed to find many other players that were able to win a Masters from qualifying since they were instituted back in the 90's. I find this a fine achievement.

Why must people be so negative here?

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Dear Masterclass.
I pointed out that I was talking about today's performance. I know that he isn't a serve-bot (or serve&dropshot-bot) otherwise he wouldn't make the final here. From what I heard this week I was probably expecting too much from Jerzy today and felt a bit dissapointed on the end.

My post might look very negative, but it wasn't meant to be.
Wishing Janowicz all the best next year, I hope this isn't just a fluke.


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Dear Masterclass.
I pointed out that I was talking about today's performance. I know that he isn't a serve-bot (or serve&dropshot-bot) otherwise he wouldn't make the final here. From what I heard this week I was probably expecting too much from Jerzy today and felt a bit dissapointed on the end.

My post might look very negative, but it wasn't meant to be.
Wishing Janowicz all the best next year, I hope this isn't just a fluke.
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Are you sure? I thought Ferrer was supposed to play del potro in the finals tomorrow.

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Hahahaha Davydenko TOO has this TREE
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Finally Ferrer won a ATP masters 1000.

It's very very surprising that it is Paris_Bercy, but the whole week was full of surprises.

Ferrer just won Valencia and Paris back-to-back.
That's impressive.

On the other hand, the draws were not that hard for him with Llodra and Janowicz in semis and final.


Fantastic and truly SENSATIONAL week from J. Janowicz. What a great surprise, what a great talent and player. His wins against Murray, Tipsa and Simon were very impressive. It was probably the most impressive run this year from a player outside the Top 10.

I wonder why other players (Raonic, Nishikori, Mayer, Kohlschreiber) were not able to show up their best form and tennis this week. They should know that Bercy is always THE chance for a non Top 10 Player to reach the semifinal or final.

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I'm glad to see Ferrer finally win a Masters title!
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Congratulations, Ferrer! I'm kind of shocked that this is the first time that he's won a Masters title.
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Congrats to David for his first TMS title! And congrats also to Jerzy for making his first career final in a TMS. Jerzy winning would've been sensational, but this was the title David needed to win if he ever wants to win a TMS, Jerzy will get many more chances if he's really this good.

Hopefully David can have a good WTF, to prove he didn't become a TMS winner only because best players tanked. David winning WTF would be so epic.

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Well , What a season for Ferrer , whatever you want to say about him he works very very hard and this Masters was deserved ! Congrats Daveed !

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