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Youngsters in Top 150 (Ranking Discussion)

Because of many debates and lack of talentful youngsters tendency, I decided to make a list of all young players in Top 150, with a few mentionable from Top 200.

Rankings are provisional, as of 28.10.2012 (source : livetennis.eu) and selected players are 23 years old and younger.

Here is a list of players (23 and younger in Top 150) :


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Rank	Name		Age	Date of Birth

13 	Raonic	        21	27.12.1990
20	Nishikori	22	29.12.1989
29	Klizan	        23	11.7.1989
43	Paire	        23	8.5.1989
44	Goffin	        21	7.12.1990
48	Tomic	        20	21.10.1992
50	Dimitrov	21	16.5.1991
65	Harrison	20	7.5.1992
67	Janowicz	21	13.11.1990
71	Kuznetsov	21	22.2.1991
90	Bedene	        23	18.7.1989
91	Berankis	22	21.6.1990
92	Rufin		22	26.5.1990
94	Sousa		23	30.3.1989
109	Pella		22	17.5.1990
123	Pospisil	22	23.6.1990
124	Donskoy	        22	9.5.1990
131	Delbonis	22	5.10.1990
132	Elias	        21	24.11.1990
137	Stebe	        22	9.10.1990
144	Ignatik	        22	14.7.1990
146	Cervantes	22	30.11.1989
And a few mentionable players from 151st to 200th place.

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162	Sock	        20	24.9.1992
179	Marti	        20	11.1.1992
191	Bhambri	        20	4.7.1992

Discuss their chances in 2013, because as we know, situation with them isn't very satisfying.

Players born 1996/97/98

ATP Rankings - U18 (1995 and younger)

Roger Federer - Martin Klizan - Lukas Lacko - Milos Raonic - Fernando Verdasco

Dustin Brown - Nick Kyrgios - Norbert Gombos - Stanislas Wawrinka - Dominic Thiem

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There is no teenager in the Top200 anymore... did that ever happen??

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Again that shit that dolgopolova is young

@ feuselino.. 2009. was the first year without tenagers in Year end Top 100 2010. was the same and last year there were Tomic and Harrison. We are back to nothing in 2012., and it will be the same in next years

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There is no teenager in the Top200 anymore... did that ever happen??
No, I believe that is a first.
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Donald Young is 23 years old (born 23.7.1989), but I don't know if he belongs to group "mentionable".

Roger Federer - Martin Klizan - Lukas Lacko - Milos Raonic - Fernando Verdasco

Dustin Brown - Nick Kyrgios - Norbert Gombos - Stanislas Wawrinka - Dominic Thiem
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Just fixed the formatting Juraj and will be interesting to see who will make it through. For the most part besides Nishikori, Dimitrov and Tomic the others haven't been massively overhyped. Some try and overhype Harrison .

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Just fixed the formatting Juraj and will be interesting to see who will make it through. For the most part besides Nishikori, Dimitrov and Tomic the others haven't been massively overhyped. Some try and overhype Harrison .
Fixed the formatting, you say. Always when someone makes these they seem less than perfect on my PC..."age" and "DoB" are not underneath each other for each player. Is that just me?
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Just fixed the formatting Juraj and will be interesting to see who will make it through. For the most part besides Nishikori, Dimitrov and Tomic the others haven't been massively overhyped. Some try and overhype Harrison .
Thanks, AJ. Actually I think players like Klizan, Goffin or Berankis were overhyped, but there are guys like Janowicz or Elias, who deserve some looks.

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Thanks, AJ. Actually I think players like Klizan, Goffin or Berankis were overhyped, but there are guys like Janowicz or Elias, who deserve some looks.
Klizan, well he had a big junior career took his time to make the breakthrough. He wasn't so bad in reality, even the Slovak fans I know were more hopeful that he will do something. Just when he won St Petersburg more of these types come out like Basha.

Goffin this year yes, not much before that and Berankis he had a bit, but nothing like Tomic, Dimitrov or Nishikori.

Litotes, I'm usual Google Chrome on default settings and it's in order for me.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Agree with AJ, Klizan and Goffin weren't really hyped until they made their breakthroughs. (Raonic is another example of this).

You can't compare them to guys like Dimitrov and Tomic who already had big endoresemnt deals and were spoken of as potential number ones before they ever did anything as pros.

Berankis was something in between the two groups. He had the big management deal but not the same level of overrating by the media.

Anyway, what was the topic again?
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Dolgopolov is 24 in one week which is absolute peak age in tennis, not a youngster...


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Nishikori won a title at 18, Tomic was beating some memorable players at 17 and Dimitrov took a set from Nadal at 17. They deserved some hype back then, today they have most definetly stagnated for far too long.

I guess Goffin, Klizan and Raonic atleast show signs of evolution in their game with is exciting even if they arent that young.

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Agree with AJ, Klizan and Goffin weren't really hyped until they made their breakthroughs. (Raonic is another example of this).

You can't compare them to guys like Dimitrov and Tomic who already had big endoresemnt deals and were spoken of as potential number ones before they ever did anything as pros.

Berankis was something in between the two groups. He had the big management deal but not the same level of overrating by the media.

Anyway, what was the topic again?
Topic is situation of current youngsters, their rankings - how do they climb it, their chances in 2013 and many things connected with it.

Roger Federer - Martin Klizan - Lukas Lacko - Milos Raonic - Fernando Verdasco

Dustin Brown - Nick Kyrgios - Norbert Gombos - Stanislas Wawrinka - Dominic Thiem
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Topic is situation of current youngsters, their rankings - how do they climb it, their chances in 2013 and many things connected with it.
Goffin, Klizan, Raonic and Nishikori will continue to climb the rankings slowly and maybe Raonic or Nishikori will finaly get into that top 10 ranking next year. Klizan and Goffin probably inside the top 25.

I doubt there will be a major breakthrough for anyone, no slam SF for anyone younger than Delpo next year.

Dimitrov has shown signs of small steps forward, he can climb into the top 40 I think and maybe finaly win some small tournament, but probably not. Harrison will stay where he is, Tomic will fall to a deep hole next year.

Janowics and Kuznetsov moving really slow not to make any sounds this year will climb to top 50 by end of next year and maybe we get to see them play in some R16 in a slam or SF of small tournament.

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