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Cilic vs Wawrinka (who is better)

I had an argue with a friend, about who is better, imho Wawrinka is by far the better and alot more talented player, but lacks the mental stamina to be higher in the rankings.

His ground-strokes are amazing, same as his backhand, and the ability to play attacking tennis are way above Cilic's

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Pretty much what you said. Stan has the potential to even fluke a Masters1000 while Cilic is no threat to the top guys.
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Re: Cilic vs Wawrinka (who is better)

Both have potential, Cilic has the better results in Slams, Wawa (for me) has more talent.


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Re: Cilic vs Wawrinka (who is better)

Yes, Wawrinka is so good, but lacks the mental toughness to be better, if we in theory compare both of them at their max, Wawa would win like 6-3/6-2 without any problems.

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Cilic is the better player. Cilic 'best level'/'God mode' is one of the scariest on tour, as he can actually do a lot of damage both off his serve and his return (one of the best returners on tour imo). He's a player who could potentially win a Slam at some point if he overcomes his mental woes - his career actually reminds me of Berdych somewhat, hope he can somehow get it (relatively) together as Tomas did soon. There's no reason why he shouldn't be a future top 5 player at least.

Wawrinka is a great player too, who hasn't maximized his talent (while Cilic still can given his young age), but I'll give the edge to Cilic. His return of serve and movement are probably the best I've seen for a guy his size.
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Re: Cilic vs Wawrinka (who is better)

is this even a question? Wawrinka (and I like Cilic).
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Wawrinka has a vast h2h against all the top guys so for every 'close' match there could be another one where he didn't have many chances so it's hard to make this kind of comparison with Cilic but I think the mere h2h between these two shows a bias towards Stan worth considering. I would take it Cilic might be better on grass actually, there's no doubt Wawrinka is far superior on clay.
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Wawrinka has a vast h2h against all the top guys so for every 'close' match there could be another one where he didn't have many chances so it's hard to make this kind of comparison with Cilic but I think the mere h2h between these two shows a bias towards Stan worth considering. I would take it Cilic might be better on grass actually, there's no doubt Wawrinka is far superior on clay.
Cilic best GS performance:

Australian Open - SF
French Open - 4th round (twice)
Wimbledon - 4th round (twice)
US Open - QF

Career titles - 8
Highest ranking - #9

Wawrinka:

Australian Open - QF
French Open - 4th round (three times)
Wimbledon - 4th round (twice)
US Open - QF

Career titles - 3
Highest ranking - #9

Cilic has the slight edge so far, but more crucially he's far younger and has far more potential to achieve in the future. The answer is clearly Cilic here.
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Both are mugs of the highest caliber. Although Cilic takes the cake for his hilarious unforced errors, you could make a highlight video of Mugrin's UE after every match.
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Cilic best GS performance:

Australian Open - SF
French Open - 4th round (twice)
Wimbledon - 4th round (twice)
US Open - QF

Career titles - 8
Highest ranking - #9

Wawrinka:

Australian Open - QF
French Open - 4th round (three times)
Wimbledon - 4th round (twice)
US Open - QF

Career titles - 3
Highest ranking - #9

Cilic has the slight edge so far, but more crucially he's far younger and has far more potential to achieve in the future. The answer is clearly Cilic here.
he has a better placement at AUS open, that's it. the fact that Cilic has more minor tourneys is a factor but not crucial to determine who's better.
Cilic has never reached a SF in a Masters event while Wawrinka has 2 SF and a final.
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Cilic is a good and very complete player but he has no big weapons. He is basically a worse version of Murray. To succeed playing like Murray you really need his talent and tactical mastery.

Wawrinka, on the other hand, can do big damage with his groundstrokes.
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Wawrinka, no contest.


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Cilic is a good and very complete player but he has no big weapons. He is basically a worse version of Murray. To succeed playing like Murray you really need his talent and tactical mastery.

Wawrinka, on the other hand, can do big damage with his groundstrokes.
Are you sure you've watched Cilic play regularly, especially his best matches? His FH and BH are both very big shots, as is his ROS - I don't have stats with me, but merely from observation I'd say that he gets more winners per match on average than guys like Del Potro (this I'm sure of) and Berdych, although far more UEs too. Not to mention Cilic plays nothing like Murray - he's an attacking big hitter.

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Wawrinka, no contest.
Yup. Cilic is 4 years younger and has done better at Slams and won more than 2x titles. He's also higher ranked currently. There's no doubt Wawrinka is the better player. This could have nothing to do with 'Also really like: Wawrinka Dislike: Cilic', could it ? Only edge Wawrinka has in this comparison is his performance at M1000 level.
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All Wawrinka has over Cilic is a one handed backhand. And that's all he needs to win this contest.

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