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Post Why are ballbashers more highly regarded than tacticians like Murray?

This has always been the case as far as I can tell, even on the WTA. Players who can hit the ball hard are seen as superior to players who prefer to defend, work the ball around or use variety. Why is that?

Murray for example works the ball around, uses variety and can use power when needed. Most of the time, he's not hitting the ball very hard but is using his entire skill set. Players like Del Potro can only hit the ball hard. That's it, yet him and others are seen as better than Murray on here, in other forums and even by some commentators. Why is the that? Why is the ballbasher seen as a better player?

Players with variety and actual tactics on court are far better than powerful guys who just slam the shit out of the ball. It's ugly to watch a ball being destroyed all over the court, but it's great to watch tactics, variety and smart play. One is skill and actual intelligence, the other is power and nothing else. Skill will always triumph over power imo.

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Re: Why are ballbashers seen more highly than defenders?

Because defending isn't tennis according to MTF. Ridiculous thought, mostly said by Fedtards/Nadal haters obviously.

Pushing like Murray though...

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it's because Murry your lucky one slam wonder (who should gratefully thank to Nole for donating that slam btw) will never be as good or popular as Djokovic, so you'll keep crying and boring us to death with your silly posts and silly threads, lol. oops, did I just say this? so proud of myself.
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Re: Why are ballbashers seen more highly than defenders?

You mean why are ballbashers regarded more highly than pushers? Not saying Murray is a pusher or anything but he does do an awful amount of retrieving. Personally I prefer the all rounder like the GOAT who can do both offense and defense equally well. Nadull is the worst breed. Just full on defensive pushing. Murray is much less of a pusher than Nadull anyway.
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Re: Why are ballbashers seen more highly than defenders?

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Because defending isn't tennis according to MTF. Ridiculous thought, mostly said by Fedtards/Nadal haters obviously.

Pushing like Murray though...
Pushing is for cowards who doesn't have the balls to take initiative and play first strike tennis. They belong in the WTA with the girls.
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You mean why are ballbashers regarded more highly than pushers? Not saying Murray is a pusher or anything but he does do an awful amount of retrieving. Personally I prefer the all rounder like the GOAT who can do both offense and defense equally well. Nadull is the worst breed. Just full on defensive pushing. Murray is much less of a pusher than Nadull anyway.


mm, not so sure about that.
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Because defending isn't tennis according to MTF. Ridiculous thought, mostly said by Fedtards/Nadal haters obviously.

Pushing like Murray though...
Nadal's tennis is awful, don't even compare it to ballbashers. At least they're actually somewhat entertaining to watch.

Murray isn't a pusher, how many times do I have to say that?
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it's because Murry your lucky one slam wonder (who should gratefully thank to Nole for donating that slam btw) will never be as good or popular as Djokovic, so you'll keep crying and boring us to death with your silly posts and silly threads, lol. oops, did I just say this? so proud of myself.
Are you actually going to answer the question properly? I guess not, never mind.

I couldn't care less if Djokovic is more popular. Andy's more talented and is better to watch, that's enough for me. Also, he's beaten Djokovic the last two times they've played

Proud of what exactly? Telling me something that I've heard countless times on here? Bravo
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You mean why are ballbashers regarded more highly than pushers? Not saying Murray is a pusher or anything but he does do an awful amount of retrieving. Personally I prefer the all rounder like the GOAT who can do both offense and defense equally well. Nadull is the worst breed. Just full on defensive pushing. Murray is much less of a pusher than Nadull anyway.
Nadal isn't a pusher. He's a spinblitzer/moonballer. It's far worse than being a pusher.

Andy isn't a pusher. He's a tactical all rounder, so to say. He has tactics, uses power, uses defense, uses slice, has a great first serve, thinks on court and can adapt to certain players rather well after working them around the court. He's the most talented player behind Roger. That is far better than mindlessly hitting the ball as hard as possible.

Of course Roger's tennis tops all.

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You mean why are ballbashers regarded more highly than pushers? Not saying Murray is a pusher or anything but he does do an awful amount of retrieving. Personally I prefer the all rounder like the GOAT who can do both offense and defense equally well. Nadull is the worst breed. Just full on defensive pushing. Murray is much less of a pusher than Nadull anyway.
Hilarious comment.

Nadal has the greatest forehand in tennis, Murray doesn't even have one

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Hilarious comment.

Nadal has the greatest forehand in tennis, Murray doesn't even have one
His forehand is just a spinny, loopy shot. It goes above his opponents' heads half the time and is awful to look at. It's nowhere near JesusFed's forehand.

Nothing about Nadal aside from his clay prowess (unfortunately) deserves being called the best of anything.

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Hilarious comment.

Nadal has the greatest forehand in tennis, Murray doesn't even have one
Your clown can only dream of playing flat FHs like Rosol-sama .


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His forehand is just a spinny, loopy shot. It goes above his opponents' heads half the time and is awful to look at. It's nowhere near JesusFed's forehand.

Nothing about Nadal aside from his clay prowess (unfortunately) deserves being called the best of anything.
what a clown, I can't stop laughing. Are you really that stupid?
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what a clown, I can't stop laughing. Are you really that stupid?
Nadal's forehand is not the greatest, Roger's is. He's not the greatest at anything apart from clay titles/overall clay career. Understand?

Also, I don't quite get how I'm stupid. Please "enlighten" me on why I am.

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Re: Why are ballbashers seen more highly than defenders?

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get over it

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Nadal's forehand is not the greatest, Roger's is. He's not the greatest at anything apart from clay titles/overall clay career. Understand?

Also, I don't quite get how I'm stupid. Please "enlighten" me on why I am.
sorry bud, but there isn't any point of explaining anything to you as you never listen. 99% of your posts simply don't make any sense and I can not take you seriously. I don't even think you are a Murray fan. you simply turn off people who might like Andy.

good luck with your thread, I couldn't care less btw. hopefully you'll grow up one day
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Re: Why are ballbashers seen more highly than defenders?

Making things happen > waiting for errors.

Besides, in this slow court era, there's much more merit in succeeding with a big hitting style than with an all-out defending/grinding style, to which the conditions are perfectly suited.
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