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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 10-02-2012, 02:20 PM Thread Starter
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Would a joint Year-end championship be good for tennis?

I was thinking about this, what if there were a joint Year-end championship? What do you think; would it be good for tennis?

I think it would be good for tennis in general. It would have more star players, thus getting more attention from people and media than separate YECs. And as it would get more attention, players would then care more about YEC. That would be good; nowadays tennis season is somewhat dead after US Open. And as YECs are almost always indoors, more important YEC would make indoor tennis again more important.

WTA would definitely be the bigger winner from a joint YEC than ATP; last year WTA Year-end championships had audience of 70,000 whereas ATP World Tour Finals had audience of 250,000. Considering that ATP would most likely generate the most of the ticket, TV rights, and sponsor revenues, an own YEC is possibly financially more profitable for ATP, at least in short term. Or ATP should get a greater share from revenues, which would be quite controversial in the era of equal payment.

A negative thing in a joint YEC would be that to host both men’s and women’s singles and doubles, there should be two courts, or there should be a separate doubles’ tournament, like there previously used to be. That would be less publicity for doubles’ players; still, I am not sure if they get much publicity at YEC anyway. At least they could have their finals in YEC in the centre court, as there are less singles’ matches in the final weekend.

Anyway, I think a joint YEC would be good for tennis. It would get more attention, making players care more about it, and that would make season after US Open more meaningful. But I'll vote just after reading some comments.

I also posted a similar thread to TF to see what fans of women’s tennis would think about this.

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a joint challenger + atp WTF has more merit than this junk post

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Challenger Tour Finals and the Masters then maybe, but there are too many joint events as it is outside of the Slams. WTA already leech enough from the ATP. It's not going to happen anytime soon.

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I prefer to enjoy each event separately. Since in theory each match is special, having a lighter schedule makes it easier for the viewer to catch more matches.
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Separate tournaments run by separate organisations on separate days having separate prize money. ATP's one has more participants and lasts longer. Not to mention they are held in completely different venues of different capability. Why to compare them, let alone suggest they should be combined?
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make it mixed and i'm in with this idea

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Why lets just go ahead and let wta vulture atp money even more.
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Separate tournaments run by separate organisations on separate days having separate prize money. ATP's one has more participants and lasts longer. Not to mention they are held in completely different venues of different capability. Why to compare them, let alone suggest they should be combined?
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Good for the WTA maybe. Terrible for ATP.

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Not a good idea. IMO the wta are already making enough money off the atp..
The atp players demand more prize money, while the women relax. Once the demand is granted, the same women demand equal pay.
There should be as few joint events as possible unless there is equal contribution and profits to both sides.

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Re: Would a joint Year-end championship be good for tennis?

No thank you. I don't need it joined together; I have enough attention span to follow them as separate events. This is the cream of the crop playing each other; a chance to see them at their best. Doesn't need to be turned into a circus.

And one negative you forgot to mention is that even though the WTA event would be mooching fans off the ATP event, the mere fact of offering the joint event would give organizers the green light to jack up the ticket prices (since they're offering you ' more'). It's hard enough as it is for regular people to afford these kind of things.

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