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Why was carpet ended?

Sorry if this has been done, I tried to search and couldnt find anything.

I loved carpet, it seemed they began to phase out in the late 90s but why? Thought that was before surface homogenisation?

Edit: to ppl blaming Rafeal and co. YEC switched to hard in 97, 2 carpet masters shrunk to 1 in 99

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Re: Why was carpet ended?

They knew Rafito would come along and wouldn't be able to win a single game on carpet so saved him from the embarrassment.

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Gasquet is next №1
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Re: Why was carpet ended?

there's a leeengthy thread about how nadal/federer lobbied to the ATP to stop using carpet as a surface in ATP tournaments.

I personally think the pressure from those 2 is exaggerated here. The ATP would have probably get rid of carpet one way or the other. It was just highly convenient for them that their 2 biggest stars were up for it too.

i guess i could also say that both federer and nadal benefited from this. nadal especially, but that still hasn't allowed him to fare well in the indoor season.

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Re: Why was carpet ended?

I expect this. But seriously

Any ideas???

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He probably just hangs about in 2nd place protecting himself with 3 bananas whilst waiting for the person in the lead to get blue shelled.
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there's a leeengthy thread about how nadal/federer lobbied to the ATP to stop using carpet as a surface in ATP tournaments.
Yes but it was already being phased out.

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He probably just hangs about in 2nd place protecting himself with 3 bananas whilst waiting for the person in the lead to get blue shelled.
1. Murray wins Wimbledon 2016 after Djokovic is blue shelled by Querrey. Thanks Querrey!

2. Murray wins Olympic Gold for the second time after Djokovic is blue shelled by Del Potro. Thanks Del Potro!

3. Murray wins US Open 2016 after Djokovic is blue shelled by [pending]. Thanks [pending]!

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Re: Why was carpet ended?

excellent first replies

muster started moaning about fast carpet in 95(?). even sampras (yes, the same sampras who was a beast on fast courts) complained one end of year tournament/end of year masters that you couldn't see the ball properly

then federer and nadal complained that their games did not translate well to properly fast surfaces, and that was the fatal blow
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I expect this. But seriously

Any ideas???
i expanded the post a little bit but i think tag is more in the line of the answer you're looking for

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Thanks

Intresting about Sampras

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2. Murray wins Olympic Gold for the second time after Djokovic is blue shelled by Del Potro. Thanks Del Potro!

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Because it wa too easy to stain

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Re: Why was carpet ended?

because of injuries/injury fears, most likely.

i've done my ankle in quite bad on carpet before. it's a shit surface, as far as i'm concerned. faster than the wind though, which in itself would make for a nice change on tour.
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Intresting about Sampras
yeah, it's unusual since his game suited the surface so well

i forget which tournament it was was, but it was mid 90s. think he might have won it as well, so he complained even though he won
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because of injuries/injury fears, most likely.

i've done my ankle in quite bad on carpet before. it's a shit surface, as far as i'm concerned. faster than the wind though, which in itself would make for a nice change on tour.
far more players have been injured on hard courts (especially this current brand) than on carpet. actually, i can recall more injuries, however slight, on grass courts and clay courts than on carpet
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far more players have been injured on hard courts (especially this current brand) than on carpet. actually, i can recall more injuries, however slight, on grass courts and clay courts than on carpet
agreed. And think of the long term damaged done on grinding slow hard courts like we have today.

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He probably just hangs about in 2nd place protecting himself with 3 bananas whilst waiting for the person in the lead to get blue shelled.
1. Murray wins Wimbledon 2016 after Djokovic is blue shelled by Querrey. Thanks Querrey!

2. Murray wins Olympic Gold for the second time after Djokovic is blue shelled by Del Potro. Thanks Del Potro!

3. Murray wins US Open 2016 after Djokovic is blue shelled by [pending]. Thanks [pending]!

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