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Top 100 by Nation

Here is a list of the number of top 100 men's ranked professional tennis players as of Sept. 17, 2012. Spain has 12 in the top 100 followed by France with 10. Full list below.

Spain - 12
France - 10
USA - 7
Germany - 6
Italy - 6
Argentina - 5
Russia - 5
Czech Republic - 4
Belgium - 4
Serbia - 3
Japan - 3
Australia - 3
Slovenia - 3
Switzerland - 2
Ukraine - 2
Austria - 2
Slovakia - 2
Netherlands - 2
Colombia - 2
Poland - 2
Great Britain - 1
Canada - 1
Croatia - 1
Brazil - 1
South Africa - 1
Uzbekistan - 1
Cyprus - 1
Finland - 1
Bulgaria - 1
Romania - 1
Taipai - 1
Estonia - 1
Kazakhstan - 1
Portugal - 1
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No wonder dull is apparently "davis cup goat"

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No wonder dull is apparently "davis cup goat"
Spain would have lost a few of their Davis Cup seasons without him, fact

<3 Roger Federer <3 David Ferrer <3 Juan Martin Del Potro <3 Ernest Gulbis <3

------------------------ <3 Richard Gasquet <3

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You forgot one. Summing up I only get to 99. Which one I have no idea.
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You forgot one. Summing up I only get to 99. Which one I have no idea.
Berankis from Lithuania

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missed Muller from Luxemberg as well so he must have added one extra by mistake somewhere

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Russia only has 4

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the number of top-100 players in France is decreasing year after year : it was 15 a few years ago, we had great generations around 1980, and very young generations are not good, then the number will keep on decreasing (although the streak for "one player in top-100 in every generation since 1965", the longest one of all countries by far, is still alive until 1989 generation (Paire) and soon probably with Rufin from 1990 generation, next generations are more doubtful)

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You got some numbers wrong. This is the correct list, rankings as of September 17th 2012.

13 Spain
9 France
8 United States
6 Germany
6 Italy
5 Argentina
4 Belgium
4 Czech Republic
4 Russia
3 Australia
3 Japan
3 Serbia
3 Slovenia
2 Colombia
2 Croatia
2 Netherlands
2 Poland
2 Slovakia
2 Switzerland
2 Ukraine
1 Austria
1 Brazil
1 Bulgaria
1 Canada
1 Cyprus
1 Estonia
1 Finland
1 Great Britain
1 Kazakhstan
1 Lithuania
1 Luxembourg
1 Romania
1 South Africa
1 Taiwan
1 Uzbekistan

I don't really get where you saw a Portuguese in the top-100 this week (J. Sousa is #109).
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I would be also interested what would be tennis countries ranking list. (pro tennis is much more than just top 100 players )
FIDE has similar ranking list for chess.( country rank by average ranking POINTS of top 10 players) Very interesting to compare if my country is better or worse than neighbours.

http://ratings.fide.com/topfed.phtml

I think similar country ranking lists are in footballl and volleyball.For example, in volleyball Estonia is world # 38, not bad at all. Better than Latvia , but worse than Finland.

http://www.fivb.org/en/volleyball/VB..._M_2012-08.asp

Unfortunately, ATP doesnt have such a country ranking list. In computer era it would be easy to calculate though.
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Unfortunately, ATP doesnt have such a country ranking list. In computer era it would be easy to calculate though.
the calculating is never the tough part in statistics, the whole question is the definition and that several definitions are always possible and in competition.

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I would be also interested what would be tennis countries ranking list. (pro tennis is much more than just top 100 players )
FIDE has similar ranking list for chess.( country rank by average ranking POINTS of top 10 players) Very interesting to compare if my country is better or worse than neighbours.
Estonia has five ATP-ranked players:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings...2012&r=0&c=EST

In total they have 718 points.

If I gave the Estonian top-10 71,8 points on average, would that be what you had in mind? Because I can do a nationwise calculation in this fashion if you want. It would not be very much like the chess ranking, though. Roger Federer alone will beat most nations, something you would not see in chess. A decent chess amateur has way more than half as many points as Magnus Carlsen, whereas an equivalent tennis amateur does not have points at all.

Do you have another idea for how this nation ranking could be calculated?
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Estonia has five ATP-ranked players:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings...2012&r=0&c=EST

In total they have 718 points.

If I gave the Estonian top-10 71,8 points on average, would that be what you had in mind? Because I can do a nationwise calculation in this fashion if you want. It would not be very much like the chess ranking, though. Roger Federer alone will beat most nations, something you would not see in chess. A decent chess amateur has way more than half as many points as Magnus Carlsen, whereas an equivalent tennis amateur does not have points at all.

Do you have another idea for how this nation ranking could be calculated?
be careful : there was already a topic about that some time ago and somebody made calculations like that.

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You forgot Karlovic (Croatia has 2, not 1)

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