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How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

I can only think of 2 myself... 2006 Rome F over Rogie and 2011 FO 1st round over Isner, are there any others I'm missing?
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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

Prepare to be destroyed. Van Lottum/Verkerk def. Nadal/Robredo 3-6 2-6 6-3 6-2 6-2 in DC QF on Outdoor Clay

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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

I believe only twice. Rome 2006, Nadal was lulling Noserer into false sense of security before destroying him in Paris (he even let him have a match point or two, what a cruel devil). And in 2011 against Mugsner he was exhausted after a long night with Xisca and surprised that Frenchies sped up clay to the levels of 90's indoor hardcourts. Apart from that, pushing Nadal to even 4 sets on clay is a miracle and a sign that Nadal is playing at 20%.
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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

Ok, I was thinking singles sorry, but there is doubles too to consider.
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I believe only twice. Rome 2006, Nadal was lulling Noserer into false sense of security before destroying him in Paris (he even let him have a match point or two, what a cruel devil). And in 2011 against Mugsner he was exhausted after a long night with Xisca and surprised that Frenchies sped up clay to the levels of 90's indoor hardcourts. Apart from that, pushing Nadal to even 4 sets on clay is a miracle and a sign that Nadal is playing at 20%.
Well, Rogie went 4 sets with Rafa on clay more than anyone else I know (i.e. 2005 FO SF, 2006 Monte Carlo F, 2006 FO F, 2007 FO F, and 2011 FO F) and I believe Rafa was playing at more than 20% in those events. 2007 FO and 2012 FO Rafa went into the F without dropping a set and lost a set to Rogie and Djokovic.
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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

2005 Rome Final: Nadal d. Coria 6-4 3-6 6-3 4-6 7-6(6).
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That was another one that went into a 5th set tiebreak, wow.
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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

You should put all of these in the OP so we can keep track

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That was another one that went into a 5th set tiebreak, wow.
Several blame that 2005 Rome loss for Coria's downfall. My post from another thread:

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In 2004, Coria was the person to beat on clay. As expected he made the final of Roland Garros, but unexpectedly, just missed the title. At this stage he was only 22 and probably thought he had lots more chances to take the title.

In 2005, he once again had a very good clay season, making the final of Monte Carlo and Rome. However, in both these finals he lost close ones to Nadal. He lost in the Roland Garros 4th round to Davydenko. Soon after this, I think in Umag, he developed service yips that pretty much derailed his career.

Why did he develop service yips a year after his Roland Garros fiasco? Well, because he starts to realise that 2004 was really his best chance. He could see how good Nadal was already (Nadal was only 18 when he beat him in Monte Carlo and Rome) and could probably tell Nadal was going to dominate clay for the foreseeable future. He knew he would probably have to beat Nadal to win Roland Garros and this was too much to bear, knowing that he didn't have to beat anyone of Nadal's calibre a year before.

This is speculation, but several tennis experts agreed that Nadal was more of a destroyer of Coria's confidence than the 2004 Roland Garros final. But it was cumulative, had Coria won Roland Garros in 2004, he wouldn't have felt so much pressure to better Nadal. So I think, if he won that Grand Slam, his career from mid 2005 would've been much better. Probably no more majors, but at least top 20 for a few more years.
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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

he's played 3 in doubles if that counts

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he's played 3 in doubles if that counts
Really? Where? I got the only one he played in DC...

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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

The 06 Rome final sucked because Nadal was mentally exhausted & Fed choked like crazy. 05 one was far superior.
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Really? Where? I got the only one he played in DC...
Nvm, I was only looking at his WG results. Bracciali/Galimberti def. Nadal/F. Lopez 4-6 6-4 6-2 4-6 9-7 on Outdoor Clay. Also, Nadal/Robredo def. Clement/Llodra 7-6(4) 4-6 6-2 2-6 6-3 on Outdoor Clay.

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Re: How many 5 set matches on clay has Rafa played?

Just the three mentioned above, Isner RG2011, Fed Rome 2006, Coria Rome 2005.
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Just the three mentioned above, Isner RG2011, Fed Rome 2006, Coria Rome 2005.
...And 3 in doubles

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