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If Murray can toy with Raonic's serve like he did in the US Open, it's no surprise that he can do this at will with Novak's inferior one too.

Best returner in the game without a doubt.
Yep
Nole has a great ROS but it's more due to his athletic ability whereas when it comes to Murray, it's due to his incredible anticipation as well as his athletic ability.
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Would anyone dare to disagree that Nadal would be wiping the floor with both of these mugs (even on the fast HC) if he was playing today instead of pissing about on a boat somewhere?
Nadal couldn't even beat a player like Rosol.
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Djokovic is there for the taking.
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Easy service game + returning well.

Novak should be scared right about now
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Agree,it's the pressure he can't handle anymore it seems
When he plays a Tsonga for example, he knows he doesn't have to force his 1st serve because Tsonga's ROS sucks so obviously, his 1st serve percentage is much higher.
It's obviously not the case against a returner of the caliber of Murray.
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Djoker's serve is nothing special and hasn't been since 2008.
True. In 2008 it was good. After working with Todd Marting it became a mess, in 2009 he was doublefaulting like Kournikova. It got better after, but it was barely decent. Even last year.
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If he missed that volley, I was gonna rage
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40-0.

What are the odds Novak faces a BP?
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True. In 2008 it was good. After working with Todd Marting it became a mess, in 2009 he was doublefaulting like Kournikova. It got better after, but it was barely decent. Even last year.
Agree.
For example, serve is the main reason he lost to Fed last year at FO.
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What a serve-fest.
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Novak showed up and dictated the point

3-2*
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Nole handling some really wicked returns from Muzz, really good stuff there to hold

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True. In 2008 it was good. After working with Todd Marting it became a mess, in 2009 he was doublefaulting like Kournikova. It got better after, but it was barely decent. Even last year.
I remember that in the 1st set of the USO 2007 Final at something like 4-4 Federer had only got 4 points on Djokovic's serve (of course, Nole went on to lose a bunch more to choke that set), nowadays he loses this amount in one or two service games.
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Agree.
For example, serve is the main reason he lost to Fed last year at FO.
Apart from the fact that it was Fed's best match on clay in the last few years, yes.
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