Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best? - MensTennisForums.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 06:57 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Age: 30
Posts: 791
                     
Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Djokovic is 25
Murray is a week older.
Nadal is 26, about a year older.

Of the three mentioned, who do you think will age the best? We all know why Fed was and still is relatively competititve into his 30s, but can those 3 age as well as him?

I give both Djokovic and Murray another 3 years to win slams, but not so sure Nadal can last even another year?

What are your thoughts?
indianabones is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 07:02 PM
Registered User
 
Mountaindewslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,692
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

give Murray Djokovic 4 more years, Nadal 2-3. that is realistic. however Nadal may be gone here and there missing tournametns at times to stay healthy

<3 Roger Federer <3 David Ferrer <3 Juan Martin Del Potro <3 Ernest Gulbis <3

------------------------ <3 Richard Gasquet <3

Rafael Nadal
Mountaindewslave is offline  
post #3 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 07:07 PM
Registered User
 
EliSter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: everywhere...
Age: 26
Posts: 5,936
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Nadal to play 3 more years and go on with owning Olderer and hopefully come back with his new metal/terminator knees and owns him some more.

Quote:
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure.

BigJohn
EliSter is offline  
post #4 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 07:10 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,351
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

None of those three will age well. They have a limited shelf life as do all defensive players (except Ferrer but hes some sort of freak). Isner will age very well. Maybe Delpotro as well....maybe (depends if he can stay relitivly healthy).

Other then that the future is a very bleak one for professional tennis until a true S&V player comes through ala Rafter, Edberg
brithater is offline  
post #5 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 07:26 PM
When You're On The Poster
 
Johnny Groove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: South Florida
Age: 26
Posts: 40,920
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Nadal will be done before 30, Djokovic 31 tops, Murray may age the best of the lot seeing as he neither destroys his knees like Nadal or slides on hardcourts as often as Nole.

Follow my Youtube Channel for all my matches
Follow me on IG for the latest news, vids, pics, and memes
Quote:
Originally Posted by Novak Djokovic
Obviously, you play a lot of mind games with yourself, but it is important to always believe that you can play your best, perform your best, and in the end, your convictions are stronger than your doubts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
If I took the time to respond to every criticism that came across my desk, there would be no time for constructive work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Humphrey Bogart
The only thing you owe the audience is a good performance
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.
Johnny Groove is offline  
post #6 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 07:39 PM
Slacker
 
Time Violation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mount Sharp
Age: 37
Posts: 14,315
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

If the present "new guns" keep mugging it up, all three of them - plus Federer - can play until they get bored being on the top.

“There’s so many athletes, tennis players around the world,” he continued, trying to put his life into some kind of perspective, “they want to be the best in what they do. They want to succeed. Many of them, they don’t succeed in the end. I’m fortunate to have this opportunity and succeed.”
Time Violation is offline  
post #7 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 07:51 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,940
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

In Sports Illustrated today Jon Weirtheim reports that Rafa's camp told him Rafa's set himself Rio 2016 as a stop date. So 3 and a half more years on tour.

In that time i think he'll take more breaks, play more on clay and focus mainly on slams. Murray will last the longest. Could see Novak checking out mentally - he seems the most fragile in that department (emotion wise, rather than game wise). Could see him wanting to do a few more years and then try out acting/entertainment etc. Murray is more like Nadal - addicted to the struggle and practice.

So think Murray will age best and last longest.
Ash86 is offline  
post #8 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 08:07 PM
Registered User
 
wackykid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 38
Posts: 531
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

interesting qn... i think murray will age better too...

adding a twist to the qn... do you think any of these 3 will age as good as agassi at least...? personally i feel that neither will age as well as federer... i consider federer age better than agassi -- unless in the next 2-3 years federer suddenly take nose dive...


regards,
wacky
wackykid is offline  
post #9 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 08:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,940
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wackykid View Post
interesting qn... i think murray will age better too...

adding a twist to the qn... do you think any of these 3 will age as good as agassi at least...? personally i feel that neither will age as well as federer... i consider federer age better than agassi -- unless in the next 2-3 years federer suddenly take nose dive...


regards,
wacky
Don't think any of these guys will have Agassi's success at age 35 as all of them will retire well before then. Agassi had long periods away from the top - these guys haven't. The battle is far more intense and physical than it was in the 90s too. It's the same guys in the SFs and Fs everytime - takes its toll.

I could see Fed retiring after next season - I don't think he'll be able to compete at the slams with the other 3 for much longer - at the end of 2 weeks, best of 5 set matches, looking at how gruelling these SFs and Fs are becoming, for him to beat 2 of Rafa/Novak/Andy is a big ask. He's also vulnerable to big hitters. Yes Wimbledon just happened but to me that was one last hurrah - like Sampras winning the US Open at the end - the trajectory will only be downwards from now and I can't see Fed wanting to stick around if winning a slam looks to be a tough proposition.
Ash86 is offline  
post #10 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 08:42 PM
Slacker
 
Time Violation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mount Sharp
Age: 37
Posts: 14,315
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash86 View Post
Don't think any of these guys will have Agassi's success at age 35 as all of them will retire well before then. Agassi had long periods away from the top - these guys haven't. The battle is far more intense and physical than it was in the 90s too.
They also work on fitness much harder most likely. If Ferrer can run like Duracell's rabbit and he's almost 31, don't see why they couldn't do the same/if Nadal's knees hold.

“There’s so many athletes, tennis players around the world,” he continued, trying to put his life into some kind of perspective, “they want to be the best in what they do. They want to succeed. Many of them, they don’t succeed in the end. I’m fortunate to have this opportunity and succeed.”
Time Violation is offline  
post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 09:01 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,940
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taejin View Post
They also work on fitness much harder most likely. If Ferrer can run like Duracell's rabbit and he's almost 31, don't see why they couldn't do the same/if Nadal's knees hold.
Mental fatigue more the issue I think. 30 is still 5 years away for Murray and Djokovic. To stay at the top, practicing day in day out, going from tournament to tournament - there comes a point that the mental effort of staying there becomes a lot. Don't see these guys sustaining it much beyond 30. 35 is a decade for Murray/Djokovic - no way are they winning slams 10 years from now.
Ash86 is offline  
post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 09:02 PM
Registered User
 
Looner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 13,127
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Don't forget the daddy years may be coming up. Not everyone is Federer and most people will find it hard to travel with a family. They have a family after they retire but that seems unlikely for me.


The "Who plays tennis?" thread


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Rod Laver
Roger is like a good red wine, he’s getting better with age.
Looner is offline  
post #13 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 09:05 PM
Slacker
 
Time Violation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mount Sharp
Age: 37
Posts: 14,315
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Well, I doubt Murray is going to be satisfied with 1 slam I guess it all depends what kind of competition they will face 4 or 5 years later. If we have a strong new generation by then, that could make the present one give up more easily/decide it's not worth the effort. However, if they are still cruising to semis and finals, I think it would be nuts to retire, there won't be another chance down the road

“There’s so many athletes, tennis players around the world,” he continued, trying to put his life into some kind of perspective, “they want to be the best in what they do. They want to succeed. Many of them, they don’t succeed in the end. I’m fortunate to have this opportunity and succeed.”
Time Violation is offline  
post #14 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 09:10 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,940
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Looner View Post
Don't forget the daddy years may be coming up. Not everyone is Federer and most people will find it hard to travel with a family. They have a family after they retire but that seems unlikely for me.
Yeah, doubt Jelena and Kim want to wait another 10 years! 5 - maybe even 6 or 7 seems reachable. Not 10. I think both Novak and Rafa will retire around 30 - Andy maybe a bit later.
Ash86 is offline  
post #15 of 34 (permalink) Old 09-11-2012, 09:17 PM
Slacker
 
Time Violation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mount Sharp
Age: 37
Posts: 14,315
                     
Re: Of the younger "top 4" who will age the best?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash86 View Post
Yeah, doubt Jelena and Kim want to wait another 10 years! 5 - maybe even 6 or 7 seems reachable.
They will shut up if they are smart

“There’s so many athletes, tennis players around the world,” he continued, trying to put his life into some kind of perspective, “they want to be the best in what they do. They want to succeed. Many of them, they don’t succeed in the end. I’m fortunate to have this opportunity and succeed.”
Time Violation is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome