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So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Which one will end the year as #1? Federer or Djokovic?

Ranking: 1. Federer 11805 2. Djokovic 10470

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I'm going with Federer, for the last 2 seasons he's been better than No2e in the indoor season by a much bigger margin than 1005 points.

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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Hopefully Nole's Luck with the Draw ended in Toronto/Cincy/US OPEN for starters. It will all come down to London though.

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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Djokovic, I say. He won't "miss" the WTF like last year and Roger can't play Paris. I also have money on him but if I'm wrong (like yesterday), I'd love it .


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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Why can't Roger play Paris, i doubt he will not play. He should win a couple of matches in Basel in 50-60 min and he should not go for the title if he is smart.

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Why can't Roger play Paris, i doubt he will not play. He should win a couple of matches in Basel in 50-60 min and he should not go for the title if he is smart.
Because of 3 weeks in a row... Remember the Nadulle-designed schedule for this year has Basel-Paris-WTF back-to-back and Roger's not going to compromise WTF to defend his title on that slow court. Even if Djoko plays Paris and wins, he'll be tired for WTF, so that's good .

Not winning Basel is also out of question unless he mugs out big time.


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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Hopefully Roger could get a Toronto special at Bercy with Nole and Murray going out early and cruise to the title

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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

If Murray successfully defends Tokyo and Shanghai...
and if he can make at least the finals of Paris and WTF while Federer does not defend his titles

He will be #1 at the end of the year.

However, Djokovic will have something to say about that since he has virtually 0 points to defend until the end of the year.


In my opinion, I think Djokovic is going to pull it out.
Federer will not be able to defend his two big titles and Djokovic has no points to defend except for a semifinal in Basel.

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If Murray successfully defends Tokyo and Shanghai...
and if he can make at least the finals of Paris and WTF while Federer does not defend his titles

He will be #1 at the end of the year.

However, Djokovic will have something to say about that since he has virtually 0 points to defend until the end of the year.


In my opinion, I think Djokovic is going to pull it out.
Federer will not be able to defend his two big titles and Djokovic has no points to defend except for a semifinal in Basel.
This post is all kinds of wrong. Murray is over 2000 points behind Federer in the RACE for the year, so he'll need a fair few titles and an almost no-show from RF to get to #2. He's a further 3000 points behind Djokovic, so no chance for #1.

Djokovic also has QF points to defend in Bercy and a win from the WTF.


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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Djokovic and Murray must surely withdraw from Tokyo/Beijing, right?


Will they risk injury ala Nadal after the grueling battle in Usopen?

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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

If you think Federer can be year end #1, that's ok too.

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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Nole obviously.

He's ahead of 1000 points, he plays one more tournament (Bejing), and Fed is gonna skip/tank Paris to prepare for the WTF.

The old man is 31, he has to manage his schedule carefully (also skipping Toronto to rest, where nole got his 1000 point advantage).

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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Yeah, the MM draw of Toronto really helped. Rog is playing DC now as well, so I don't see him ending as #1.


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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Murray:
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Re: So, which one will it be then? (Year-end #1)

Probably Nole will end as no.1 unless he has another horror end to the year like last season (Which is possible since he looked tired in that blasted 5th set yesterday ).

Although I can see Roger regaining no.1 is he schedules smartly

ie; plays Tokyo or Beijing, Shanghai, Basel and WTF.
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It could be Federer but I doubt Roger will play his last year's schedule

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