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View Poll Results: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet career achievement wise?
Yes, Murray by a whisker 71 49.65%
Nope, Roddick still better 44 30.77%
About the same at this point 22 15.38%
Who cares? Both one slam wonders 6 4.20%
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Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Now I think the comparisons can be made.

Roddick has number 1 in his favour.

Murray has the Oly gold.

Both have lost about the same number of slam finals, Roddick fought a bit more in most of them though. Roddick also played a better version of Fed than what Murray lost to most of the time except 09 SW19.

Murray has a FO semi to his name.

Roddick has a better serve, Murray better backhand.

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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Definitely. He can only go far from here.

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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Roddick played in a mug era and still failed to win more than one slam. Murray as much as I dislike him, played in a very strong era with Nadal and Djokovic in their primes. Plus Mugza has gold, so he is ahead of Monoduck easily.
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Roddick

5 grand slam finals

1 grand slam (US, 3x runner up at WIM, 3x semi finals at AO, 4R at FO)

13 weeks as no 1

3 x semi final at Year End Championship

5 masters series from 9 finals

32 total career titles

1 finish as year end no1


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5 grand slam finals

1 grand slam (US, 1x runner up at WIM, 2x runner up at AO, semi finals at FO)

0 weeks as no1 (peaked at no2)

2x semi finals at Year End Championship

8 masters series from 10 finals

24 total career titles

olympic gold medal

0 finishes as year end no1


roddick still edges it due to the weeks/finish as no1
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Nope. As much as I cant stand Roddick he has been #1 and has a davis cup. Girlfriend is probably better looking and Roddick had better hair at Murray's age. I think both act like a horses arse on court but I call a draw there as while Roddicks antics were more entertaining......Murrays abusive outbursts are probably more interesting.

Hand to hand fight its a toss up. Roddick would probably beat the daylights out of Murray but Murray may beat the hell out of himself first. Murray seams to be in the masicist mode for the most part. Roddick just likes to hit things really hard and then run away. Similar to his game with the whole serve and retreat tactic.

anyways....thats my analysis.

Roddick > Murray
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Pretty close at the moment.

- Each have one USO title

- Murray has a gold medal (No medal from Roddick)
- Murray has 8 Masters (compared to Roddick's 5 masters)

-Roddick has 32 titles (compared to Murray's 24)
-Roddick has reached world #1 (compared to Murray's high of of #2)
-Roddick has a Davis Cup title
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Pretty close so far. I'd give the edge to Roddick for obtaining #1, having more titles, and for staying in the top 10 forever.

However, Murray will likely surpass him soon. For sure he will have more titles than Roddick. Maybe even reach the #1 as well. And he is very consistent so is likely to be a staple in the top 10 for a few years more.
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

davis cup is irrelevant here

individual achievements that count

if murray takes the clay season seriously next year, defends/gains his indoor points, and wins AO, then he should be no1 at some point next year

that's when this comparison will go in his favour
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Yes Murray has passed him. Roddick was consistent. He played at the top in a very weak era. Roddick's record against top players throughout his career is a joke, and I am not talking about Federer.
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Murray played in the muggest eras and still only won 1 slam.

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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Not yet. I think Murray will end up with the better career though.

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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Next year he would probably eclipse Roddick by winning 1 more GS. Again, the question is when for Muzz.
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

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Nope. As much as I cant stand Roddick he has been #1 and has a davis cup. Girlfriend is probably better looking and Roddick had better hair at Murray's age.




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People using Davis Cup as a mark of individual success

Its career achievement silly and yes Davis Cup does matter as it is part of ones career.
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

Roddick for sure atm, but probably not for much longer. Another year or two of master titles will tip Murray over. Of course another slam or a number one would instantly do it.

Roddick played in a very tough era and was the 2nd best player for nearly three years before Rafa eclipsed him, at which point he was the third best for another two years.
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Re: Has Murray eclipsed Roddick yet?

The gold breaks the tie in Murray's favour.
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