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How much credit should Lendl get for Murray's current good play?
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none,in fact without lendl Murray would have won all slams this year

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Mentally....A LOT.
As for his game ? Not much. Murray was always skilled but mentally handicapped and with Lendl in charge that has decreased , not entirely but enough to help him over that hump.
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Lendl hates Murray. You can see it in his utterly bored expression during every one of Uglyray's disgusting matches.
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he probably threatens to like beam him with tennis balls like he did Mccenroe haha so possibly he helps Murray's mentality

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He has a hidden agenda. He doesn't like losing most GS finals before winning one, so he wants to make Andy break his record, then he'll ditch him. Such a this Lendl.

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Well, I think Lendl is a good coach, but probably not better than the likes of Brad Gilbert, Darren Cahill etc. The difference is that Ivan has actually achieved something in his career, while those other guys were mediocre in comparison. I think Lendl is probably criticising the same things as his previous coaches, telling him to be more aggressive, come to the net more etc. The difference is Andy actually listens to him, because he has a lot of respect for Lendl as a player.

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Mentally....A LOT.
As for his game ? Not much. Murray was always skilled but mentally handicapped and with Lendl in charge that has decreased , not entirely but enough to help him over that hump.
Yes, but not just in the 'dig in' 'stay strong' way. I think Andy always fancied himself as a great tacticial, and his tactics always worked. I see some effort in trying to improve the 2nd serve, variety of forehand & maybe a little more agressive on 2nd serve return.

Otherwise, much the same
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None. He was a great player already who was stoped by Nadal in the semis most of the times. You should make a thread asking "Did Nadal injury helped Murray?"
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Not much.How is Murray is really different now than in the previous years ? He still failed in slams.Winning the OG was great for him but it's not really the same.And if he does win tomorrow it would have more to do with his cakewalk draw and having one more day of rest than with Lendl's help.
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lendl has transformed murray mentally

and he has also instructed him to be more aggressive with the forehand and finish more points off at the net

this is blatantly obvious if you compare murray's matches from this year to previous years

however, murray still has this awful(and natural) mentality of trying to outlast people on court. i know he's from up north, and survived on raw potatoes and undistilled spirits when he was growing up, but it's ridiculous and not needed on a tennis court

lendl deserves credit, no doubt about it
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Lendl has been great for Murray because he comes from a similar background to him in terms of what they achieved at the point in the career (Ivan took over) Murray has become a little bit more aggressive and tactically he is better but I still want Boris Becker to coach Murray.

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More of a mentor than a coach. But he helped with Andy's game too. Most important thing is no more grabbing all his body parts/ bad body language.
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Re: Lendl as Coach

Lots of interesting responses so far. I asked about Lendl as coach because frankly I don't know what it takes to be a tennis coach, or how to even evaluate this work. Was Connors a good coach? Has Edberg ever gotten into it? How about McEnroe? How much money is involved in this? For example, what do you suppose Murray is paying Lendl to do this? I hear people talking about the mental aspect. Well, if someone can make a difference for the better, maybe it's worth it for someone to bring in a coach who used to be a world class player. Anyway, thanks for the responses.
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