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Would Murray's GS be tainted?

Im a big Murray fan from when he first appeared at Wimbledon as a 16 year old and watched him rise the rankings. Also being a Brit I have been exposed to the constant comparisons in the British press to Henman and Rusedski who never won a Grand Slam. My question, and sorry if it has been asked, mods can forward it to another thread if so, is if Murray won this US Open or another GS without facing any of the top 3, would his title be tainted, and therefore the question still to remain whether he can do it at the very top?

In this context it would refer to if he beat Ferrer in the final, which if Ferrer wins tonight, I am very confident off.

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In my opinion, I am worried he'll go into the record books with an asterisk by his name as US Open champion saying in small writing, didn't face Fed, Nadal or Joker

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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

Nope.

You beat who gets put in front of you.

I'm sure there'd be many who want to put asterisks against it for their own reasons but that's not the way it works.
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

No Djokovic, Nadal and Federer all beat UNSEEDED players for their 1st slams. Ferrer is the 4th seed. If Murray won several grandslams beating players other than Djokovic, Nadal and Federer then it might be a bit lucky, but Murray beating Ferrer for his first slam would still be harder than what the afromentioned 3 had to face.

Also, winning a slam at all would give him confidence in future slams to beat the top 3.
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

As if a player can choose who he meets. . . no doubt many here would say it had an asterisk, but not those with any sense. It's not as if he hadn't beaten both Federer and Djokovic, as recently as in their last matches too. But I don't think it will come to that - I expect him to meet Djokovic.

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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

First let him win the GS. Then we can discuss how tainted it is.

Now the discussion should be: If Murray gets another GS runner up plate, can he host a dinner party with these plates?
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

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No Djokovic, Nadal and Federer all beat UNSEEDED players for their 1st slams. Ferrer is the 4th seed. If Murray won several grandslams beating players other than Djokovic, Nadal and Federer then it might be a bit lucky, but Murray beating Ferrer for his first slam would still be harder than what the afromentioned 3 had to face.

Also, winning a slam at all would give him confidence in future slams to beat the top 3.
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2. Murray wins Olympic Gold for the second time after Djokovic is blue shelled by Del Potro. Thanks Del Potro!

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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

Yes, there will be a little '*' next to his Slam, but the fact that he has won A LOT of Masters events, reached 4 other GS finals and had a career of a Slam champion, will make up for it. If you take the circumstances into account, any first Slam will be fully deserved.


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As if a player can choose who he meets. . . no doubt many here would say it had an asterisk, but not those with any sense. It's not as if he hadn't beaten both Federer and Djokovic, as recently as in their last matches too. But I don't think it will come to that - I expect him to meet Djokovic.
I expect him to meet Djokovic and he would go in as the underdog.
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

As tainted as Roddick's 2003 USO when the schedulers favoured him, or USO 2008 when he had a day's less rest than Fed for the final i.e. no. He'd have to thank CBS though.

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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

Most of those who would put the * there are those who would do it because they don't like him or the way he plays, would never accept him winning a slam no matter who he beat, and will find any excuse for justifying why their smug predictions that he'd never win a slam were proven wrong.

But this is all premature.
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

This is MTF. Every GS comes with a thousand excuses here.
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

US OPEN organization is tainted.
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

Not tainted per say, but people will look at it differently if he dodges all of the big 3.
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

Already giving Murray the title, eh?
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Re: Would Murray's GS be tainted?

No.
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