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post #76 of 166 (permalink) Old 09-02-2012, 10:53 AM
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Murray is the much better player watch. So much variety, he can produce great defence, incredible shotmaking. Raonic is very boring and one dimensional.
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Murray to win in 4. But if he plays like he did against Feli, Raonic can actually win this. Let's be honest, the only reason Mugray beat Lopez was because of Lopez choking bigtime. I was actually surprised at Murray's level, I expected more from him.

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If raonic is a Fedtard like me he will crush murry!!11
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Raonic seems to be peaking at the right time. Against PHM he only won 16 points on return the whole match (19%). Against Blake he won 42%. I have no doubt he'll play one of his best matches on Monday.
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Murray to win in 4. But if he plays like he did against Feli, Raonic can actually win this. Let's be honest, the only reason Mugray beat Lopez was because of Lopez choking bigtime. I was actually surprised at Murray's level, I expected more from him.
Why should he play his peak tennis against someone like Feli ?

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Raonic will beat him. That's mean Cilic will break in top 10 again.


Raonic is pretty overrated on MTF and his backhand, return and (especialy) movement sucks. Murray in 3, maybe in 4. Andy is a world class returner and this is a slam, not an atp500.
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Mugray will eat servebot for lunch.

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Murray in 4 probably loosing 1tie-break, winning 1-2 tie-breaks and win 1-2 sets by break.

Now few things to really need to be said:

1. Milos needs to play and serve whole match like first 2 sets vs Blake, can´t have ups-downs like vs Blake in 3rd set.
2. AA- slower court - advantage Murray, bigger court - advantage Murray he can track down more balls, get it back and kick serve won´t be as effective - slower court means more erros from Milos, it will be harder to hit winners
3. Murray is one of best if not best 1st serve returner, once he will read his serve it will be tough for Milos to have so many free points on 1st serve, 2nd serve Murray will get in many many rallies - 48% of winning 2nd serves vs Blake i think he had - such numbers vs Murray would be very bad for Milos
4. Murray must play better, i am sure he will play better than again Lopez, his level will raise i have no doubts about it
5. Length of match is irrelevant - even 5 sets vs Milos is probably 3 and half hour - 4hours mostly, Murray can handle it, who think he will be tired no way, he won´t.

I like Milos, but this is not his time, he needs to improove, he is not ready to take 3 sets from Murray.
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Raonic in 4 with 70-80% 1st serves or Murray in 3..

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Raonic is pretty overrated on MTF and his backhand, return and (especialy) movement sucks. Murray in 3, maybe in 4. Andy is a world class returner and this is a slam, not an atp500.
But his forehand and serve are great. He will beat him easiest people expect.
That's great for Marin because he alwys beat big servers.
There is just one fact, Marin won 27% points on Brand's 205 kmph (great placed) 1st serve average.
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Murray is the much better player watch. So much variety, he can produce great defence, incredible shotmaking. Raonic is very boring and one dimensional.
the tiebreaker last night was an example of how boring raonic's game can be

where tiebreakers can usually be exciting that one last night was just one of the worst i've ever seen
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If Raonic ever wants to be Top 10, this is a match he must win. If not, well, MTF majority has all the right to name him "over-rated" "over-hyped".
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Raonic's moment will come soon but not this time,not yet.
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If Raonic ever wants to be Top 10, this is a match he must win. If not, well, MTF majority has all the right to name him "over-rated" "over-hyped".
Yes, if he losses a match at 21 when he is ranked 15 in the world, he will never make the top ten..

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Yes, if he losses a match at 21 when he is ranked 15 in the world, he will never make the top ten..
Oh no, it's not about this match, it's about a match of this kind. Against a top player. You can't be a top player if you can't beat a top player, especially in a Grand Slam match. He is down 3-12 against the current Top 10 players. That's all I meant. I wasn't trying to infer it's the only chance he has.
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