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Saberq is right :-P

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Like all these crap commentators, Agassi try to promote tennis. In 2020, Agassi, Trollander and co will say that Tomic play better than any player ever played before... Nobody will say "well, tennis players are averages today comparing to pasts champions" Casuals fans need to think that their champions are the bests.

It was the same when everyone called Federer the "best ever" even though he had only 6 slams. It was disrespectful for pasts legends like Laver, Gonzalez, Hoad...

I like Federer because he never said these kinds of statements, he's very respectful of pasts champions. Djokovic said many times than him and his mates raised tennis to a new level. His tennis knowledege is poor. I remember, in 2009 (Nadal had 4 FO) a journalist ask him who had won the most FO in the history (Borg easily at that time). He answered a shit like "i don't know... Nadal?"

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Like all these crap commentators, Agassi try to promote tennis. In 2020, Agassi, Trollander and co will say that Tomic play better than any player ever played before... Nobody will say "well, tennis players are averages today comparing to pasts champions" Casuals fans need to think that their champions are the bests.

It was the same when everyone called Federer the "best ever" even though he had only 6 slams. It was disrespectful for pasts legends like Laver, Gonzalez, Hoad...

I like Federer because he never said these kinds of statements, he's very respectful of pasts champions. Djokovic said many times than him and his mates raised tennis to a new level. His tennis knowledege is poor. I remember, in 2009 (Nadal had 4 FO) a journalist ask him who had won the most FO in the history (Borg easily at that time). He answered a shit like "i don't know... Nadal?"
Why would he? He would be throwing stones at his own legacy, it doesn't make any sense. And Agassi is only an example, many other past legends have stated similar things and most tennis commentators and pundits say the same. If that is not enough for you, well it's a matter of opinion. But I'll take theirs a thousand times before yours.



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yes I can compare Federer to overrated Laver because Laver in today's tennis would lose left and right.......Federer is without question the best of all time with record or without them
Err...GREAT argument right there.
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disgusting arrogance as usual from the swiss

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Re: Roger : We are best ever, The four of us? Thatís a really difficult call.

laver was a genius , if this players would play against him with that technology , laver would own all of them.

anyway , for me fed it`s goat not by his titles , because for me he showed the most beatiful game , technnique , adaptation on the surfaces and a perfect balanced tennis of all times , it`s a classic player in modern times.

because all of thaT + the plus of the records and titles , he has the game and the archivements , perfect balance
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laver was a genius , if this players would play against him with that technology , laver would own all of them.
Incorrect. Laver would fail in this era because his physicality isn't suited towards modern game. He would get eaten alive by Nadal or Djokovic on any surface.
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Incorrect. Laver would fail in this era because his physicality isn't suited towards modern game. He would get eaten alive by Nadal or Djokovic on any surface.
but he would eat Djokovic and Nadal alive if they played in the 60s with those wooden racquets and where the athletes could not train to be as physical as they are today

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but he would eat Djokovic and Nadal alive if they played in the 60s with those wooden racquets and where the athletes could not train to be as physical as they are today
I am talking about Laver growing up in modern era with modern tech. In the modern game his physical limitations would soon become apparent. It's not even about talent, it's his lack of height, athleticism and brute physicality that's required today. He would probably be on Ferrer's level, but nowhere near a slam.
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Greatest top 3 combined with the weakest rest of the field.

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I am talking about Laver growing up in modern era with modern tech. In the modern game his physical limitations would soon become apparent. It's not even about talent, it's his lack of height, athleticism and brute physicality that's required today. He would probably be on Ferrer's level, but nowhere near a slam.
Not necessarily true. Laver was 5-9 or 10, Rosewall 5-7. Had they been born 40 or more years later, chances are due to nutrition and evolution they would be a few inches taller, and therefore, stronger. Still, despite their size they were beating players taller then they were. Gonzalez was 6-2, Newcombe, Hoad, Emerson, Roche, Ashe, Passerall were 6 footers or close. With modern equipment and training techniques, great athletes of the past would be great tennis players today. The same is true of any other sport too.
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