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Re: Do you think this era will be remembered as a subpar era?

David Ferrer is the fourth seed at a grand-slam. That atrocity right there is all you need to prove how sub-par this era is.
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3 greats dominating and the rest hardly making a dent? Mug era.

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Re: Do you think this era will be remembered as a subpar era?

Of course this is a subpar era. Any time when the number one player in the world is defending less slams than any other current player is clear evidence of a subpar era.
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David Ferrer is the fourth seed at a grand-slam. That atrocity right there is all you need to prove how sub-par this era is.
Ferrer would be number 1 seed in any other era.

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Re: Do you think this era will be remembered as a subpar era?

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With a 31 year old very-past-his-prime Federer dominating and winning Slams at the same time in which there's a peak Djokovic and a very strong Nadal, who sweeped the red clay season like he usually does, and with a guy like Mónaco reaching the top 10, you've got to wonder about this.

Those are only a few examples and I'm sure others have consider this possibility as well. This didn't happen in a vacuum of course. In fact, there might be some truth to the experts' talk that tennis has been getting progressively more physical over time, and thus with less talent required to actually play.

What do you think?
No era can be more subpar than the 90's.
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Re: Do you think this era will be remembered as a subpar era?

It is a weak era, three great players surrounded by a bunch of stiffs for the most part.



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Ferrer would be number 1 seed in any other era.
agree big time! people are amused by big shots here and there,I bet Rosol has more fans already than him, just real tennis fans can see the hard and amazing work ferrer is putting out there and admire it, and yet he has not been close to winning a slam and hes is behind top 4, that tells you how great this era is and the quality of tennis never been higher, look at the quality of tennis Djoko showed us last year, does anyone remember anything like that ever? Or tennis that Roger is playing this year, I believe roger 2012 is playing better tennis right now and would beat Roger 2004 by good margin! , his backhand has never been more solid , he is showing some magical stuff out there and we should admire how he is forced to bring out that because of the competition existing here, subpar era was when Sampras and Aggasi were fading away , early Roger's achievements came in that era ,not to take any credits from him, Roger is playing a much better and smarter tennis now than ever and that is the way it is and always been, every competition progress to extreme perfection year after year.
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Re: Do you think this era will be remembered as a subpar era?

It's so difficult to compare eras. To say an era is "subpar" is equally hard, as you need to know what a "par" era is.

Like that Groove poster, I think every era has its own qualities, and I am enjoying this one a lot. To be able to follow tennis at a time when two of the greatest players to ever play the game are competing, and when another player is winning multiple slams at the same time - well, it's pretty good, no?
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What is a weak era? An era where loads of players win 1 or 2 slams (wta) or an era where 2 or 3 players win everything?

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It is a weak era, three great players surrounded by a bunch of stiffs for the most part.
So was the Borg/Connors/McEnroe era weak because it was 3 great player surrounded by stiffs?

What of the Laver/Rosewall era? Or Sampras/Agassi? Both had only 2 dominants.

Or Edberg/Becker/Lendl?

How 'bout the Budge/Vines/Perry era in the 30's and before the 2nd War? What an era that was.

Or Tilden vs. the French in the 20's?

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David Ferrer is the fourth seed at a grand-slam. That atrocity right there is all you need to prove how sub-par this era is.
Don't think that necessarily means a weak era. If Ferrer was the 4th best player on tour, then it'd be the weakest era of all-time for sure, I wouldn't even watch tennis if the sport had such a dire lack of talent.

But everyone knows that's not the case, he's not even among the 10 best players. His seed is a result of abusing the flawed ranking system to no end, like Boredo once did to get his high seedings. There are bound to be mugs getting top 5 seeds in any era, strong or weak, as long as the current ranking system isn't changed to prevent this kind of abuse, it says nothing about the strength of the era.
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David Ferrer is the fourth seed at a grand-slam. That atrocity right there is all you need to prove how sub-par this era is.
At least he has no slam, unlike a billion clowns fluking slams left and right in the 90s/early 2000's. Krajicek and Flukenisevic both winning wimbledon is a much bigger atrocity than Ferrer as the 4th seed.
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Yes. You've got 3 bona-fide all time greats. Yes there's less depth, but still....

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Nadal won slams off of clay, so yes, very subpar era.
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At least he has no slam, unlike a billion clowns fluking slams left and right in the 90s/early 2000's. Krajicek and Flukenisevic both winning wimbledon is a much bigger atrocity than Ferrer as the 4th seed.
Krajicek and Ivanisevic are far more talented player than Ferrer. Their serves alone are worth more than Ferrer's entire 'game'. They won Slams because they had the weapons to beat the best players of their era in the super fast grass of Wimbledon, it's far from an atrocity.
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